# Did Seinfeld ever have an actual dramatic moment?

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**Created:** [December 31, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-seinfeld-ever-have-an-actual-dramatic-moment/741797 "2015-12-31T04:27:52Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-seinfeld-ever-have-an-actual-dramatic-moment/741797/21 "2015-12-31T23:00:43Z")

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“Ehh, drama schrama. Am I right? I mean, tell me if I’m wrong here. You go for drama, you get… what?” “I dunno, what?” “That’s why I’m askin’. I have NO idea!” Pause to sip coffee. “But it’s not drama.” “Ohhh, noooo, it’s sure as hell not drama. It’s that thing.” “Thing?” “Y’know, that thing.” “I have no idea what that thing is.” Pause for another sip of coffee. “Well, it’s just as well. Waitress?”

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-seinfeld-ever-have-an-actual-dramatic-moment/741797/22 "2015-12-31T23:10:12Z")

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…I’d argue the final scene of Seinfeld was the most thought-provoking and dramatic moment in the series.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/RN2BagUS0ko/maxresdefault.jpg "The Very First and Last Scenes of Seinfeld") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN2BagUS0ko)

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-seinfeld-ever-have-an-actual-dramatic-moment/741797/23 "2016-01-01T19:04:43Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> In the series finale, when they thought the plane was going to crash, there was a brief few seconds when Elaine seems like she was going to tell Jerry she loved him.

THIS! I had it in mind a short time into reading the thread.

There is no doubt in my mind that she would have confessed full-on romantic love for Jerry had the plane not stabilized in time.

Good point about dramatic scenes not lasting very long.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-seinfeld-ever-have-an-actual-dramatic-moment/741797/24 "2016-01-02T02:30:51Z")

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[quote=“Banquet\_Bear, post:22, topic:741797”]

…I’d argue the final scene of Seinfeld was the most thought-provoking and dramatic moment in the series.

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That’s not the final scene of Seinfeld! There was a post credit scene where Jerry’s doing stand-up in the jail.

> [@Find\_Friends](#):
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> THIS! I had it in mind a short time into reading the thread.
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> There is no doubt in my mind that she would have confessed full-on romantic love for Jerry had the plane not stabilized in time.
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> Good point about dramatic scenes not lasting very long.

I remember there was so much speculation before the finale about how the series would end. Plane crash was one of them, or driving off a cliff. I don’t know if small details from the script leaked or they put that in there to throw people off.

Elaine, I think, always had more of a thing for Jerry than he did for her. There was another episode where Jerry starts acting sincere, caring about people, even crying when a girl broke up with him. He asked Elaine to marry him and Elaine declines, but later in the episode (after Jerry was scared back to normal by George), Elaine decides to accept the proposal.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-seinfeld-ever-have-an-actual-dramatic-moment/741797/25 "2016-01-02T02:43:39Z")

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The final episode references the death of Princess Diana re: the Good Samaritan Law. The group seems sincere in their reaction. That’s about as close to a dramatic moment that I can recall.

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**Author:** ![sich\_hinaufwinden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@sich\_hinaufwinden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sich_hinaufwinden)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-seinfeld-ever-have-an-actual-dramatic-moment/741797/26 "2016-01-02T03:17:29Z")

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What about the final scene of The Mom and Pop Store where Kramer’s nose starts bleeding on the bus in a parody of Midnight Cowboy?

Not exactly funny and Jerry seems genuinely concerned for Kramer.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-seinfeld-ever-have-an-actual-dramatic-moment/741797/27 "2016-01-02T03:39:49Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The lack of anything serious in a non-ironic way is one of the things I like best about Seinfeld. I applaud the purity and consistency of its completely shallow approach to life.

Yes, it was the first sitcom to have the integrity to stick to its premise.

> [@sich\_hinaufwinden](#):
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> What about the final scene of The Mom and Pop Store where Kramer’s nose starts bleeding on the bus in a parody of Midnight Cowboy?
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> Not exactly funny and Jerry seems genuinely concerned for Kramer.

But it’s played as a parody! It creates no real tension or concern on the part of the viewer.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-seinfeld-ever-have-an-actual-dramatic-moment/741797/28 "2016-01-03T00:19:06Z")

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The most emotional moment I can think of was when Elaine was fired by Mr Pitt: [- YouTube](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-tu0Ci1lh10)

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-seinfeld-ever-have-an-actual-dramatic-moment/741797/29 "2016-01-03T00:34:01Z")

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There was a brief moment before commercial where Jerry was sitting in his after having just kissed George’s girlfriend Marlene. He was a bit dazed and shaken by the incident. There was nothing funny about it. It lasted about 5 seconds. That’s the closest to anything serious I can remember.

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