# Did she put a spell on me?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [October 21, 2000, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-she-put-a-spell-on-me/37746 "2000-10-21T02:42:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2000, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-she-put-a-spell-on-me/37746/21 "2000-10-23T21:45:45Z")

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Hi E d’Mann, good post.

See this source:  
[http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/bee.html](http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/bee.html)

It doesn’t describe the process in depth, but says that bee pollen is pollen that is collected off of bees from their trips searching for nectar. Basically they get the pollen on their legs and bodies while rummaging in the flowers, then when they return to their hive, the beekeepers collect it. No idea how they collect it, but they do. And then market it as a health supplement.

No proven effects from bee pollen, medicinal or otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2000, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-she-put-a-spell-on-me/37746/22 "2000-10-23T22:19:27Z")

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Speaking for myself, I find that I’m likelier to get more obsessed with a woman when I receive mixed signals. Pam was certainly doing that.

Perhaps we think more about our partners when we don’t understand them, eg when their behavior is unreasonable and we haven’t pegged them as deceptive or unacceptable in some way. Or perhaps it’s just a reflection of the anxiety associated with an underlying uncertainty: do they or don’t they love me? Often it’s the case that uncertainty is more disturbing than even an unpleasant, though known, outcome.  
Best wishes with your old flame.

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**Author:** ![Gollum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85f322/32.png) [@Gollum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gollum)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2000, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-she-put-a-spell-on-me/37746/23 "2000-10-23T23:50:30Z")

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Yes. She cast a spell on you. It is a third circle spell called ‘Hearts entangled’.  
To cast it she would have called upon the spirits of nature and her dead kin to bind you to her.  
You were lucky to run into your old flame, with whom it is obvious you have a psychic connection.  
Your contact with her bolstered your psychic defenses enabling you to resist the manipulations of this Pam (not her real name- no matter what she told you)  
The Bee Pollen is mystic conductant to the spell, to strengthen its effect. The completion of the spell occurs during intercourse,  
when the spiritual barriers between two souls are at the weakest.  
Without your old love you could have been in the thrall of this spell for weeks longer.  
With clever psychology (rejection/persual) the effect can be maintained for months. If the spell  
is still active after 8 months the Castee becomes the LIFE SERVANT of the Caster, probably what  
happened to this Micheal. Life servants are bound to protect and serve the caster, hence micheals overly  
protective behaviour. Be cautious! Life servants are prone to irrational and dangerous behaviour in their service.

To break Hearts Entangled.  
As a spell of spirits this casting is powerful, but can be broken by invoking  
any of the powers (Light, darkness or Yog soggoth).  
Invoking darkness or Yog soggoth carries worse danger than merely trying to pit your willpower against  
the spell.  
We will assume you walk in the Light, and wish to seek its aid.  
Procure  
A live animal  
Rosery beads used by a monk who has since attained nirvana  
Thirteen perfectly smooth beach stones of quartz.  
A euhedral calcite crystal  
an object prized by you and by one by the caster  
Bees pollen made into an oil

Proceedure  
Get naked  
Oil up  
Place the thirteen stones in a circle  
go scare the neighbours…  
Im sorry. If you were with me on that, then i salute your wonder at the mysteries of life.  
However, I think magic is an explaination for something that just hasn’t been explained yet.  
It just doesnt happen.  
Behavioural changes due to a temporary infatuation don’t really need to resort to magic to  
be explained. If they do, you need more help than can be given here. Try buddhism.  
I was watching a doco the other night (not getting laid by some witch chick. Where is the justice?)  
Animals form pair bonds when, after sex or prolonged contact, the brain releases a chemical called…  
Oxcotlyn (that is NOT right, but i can not remember its name). This chemical is also produced by humans  
and believed to be responsible for love, at least in part.  
It is possible (read POSSIBLE) that the bees pollen increases the release of Oxycotlyn (for want of a proper name)after sex,  
increasing any bond that may be created. Bees might use it to create the bond that keeps the hive together. Her actions (mixed signals) caused the bond to screw with your head, so you didnt get  
the right environment (rejection, acceptance) to get your brain in gear.  
Anything that changes the brain chemistry is going to affect your thoughts and actions. It may seem that you acted irrationally  
once things are back to normal, but you (or I) would probably do the same thing in the same situation if it happened again.  
Just a theory.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2000, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-she-put-a-spell-on-me/37746/24 "2000-10-23T23:52:41Z")

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oops- Micheal is ment to be willy. scary- i think i was putting some people from some zany episodes of my life in there. Bad brain.

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**Author:** ![RainbowDragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@RainbowDragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RainbowDragon)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-she-put-a-spell-on-me/37746/25 "2000-10-24T12:47:43Z")

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It seems to me E d’Mann that you already have a proclivity for believing in spells.

You don’t necessarily need forethought to believe in something. For example, a woman who manages to get an adrenaline rush to rescue her child might later proclaim that it was a miracle because of her faith in God.

I think you looked at your obsessive relationship with this woman, and then looked as to how the events unfolded. In order to come up with a logical explanation, you reached back to the time she used bee pollen and believed it were some supernatural spell.

It gives your mind a “cop out” to believe that you were not in control of your actions, but rather powers were used on you and forced you to fall in love. “I couldn’t have fallen in love with such a woman, she must have had magical powers”

The fact is you would have had a similar response without the bee pollen (although maybe not as sticky – he he).

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**Author:** ![IBBen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/85f322/32.png) [@IBBen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IBBen)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-she-put-a-spell-on-me/37746/26 "2000-10-24T17:04:06Z")

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She did indeed use a potent magic spell on you friend. This supernatural manuever was best described by a friend of mine as “The Dis”. He swears by this rite and it works wonders for him.

Step one: Meet a woman and hopefully enjoy a physical encounter on the first night.

Step two: Promise to call the next day.

Step three: Don’t call

Step four: Don’t return any calls

Step five: At the point where she is wondering and worrying whether she will ever see you again, repeat steps one through three.

I am a reasonably attractive young man but I have had limited success with women due to my overwhelming and immediate attractions and emotions. Upon learning this coveted spell, I found my relationships lasted much longer.

Please be warned though, she may get wise and attempt the little known, “Reverse Dis” which I believe you were in the middle of when she got on the phone, said “Wh”, and you hung up. Nice move man, a perfectly executed “Reverse Dis”

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-she-put-a-spell-on-me/37746/27 "2000-10-24T19:18:44Z")

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Thanks, **IBBen** , for laughing with me and not at me!

p.s. My new/old love and I aren’t perfectly heart2heart again yet, but we’re working it out. I’ll have to remember to pull “the dis” on her soon (kidding).

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**Author:** ![IBBen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/85f322/32.png) [@IBBen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IBBen)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-she-put-a-spell-on-me/37746/28 "2000-10-24T20:01:28Z")

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Trust me man, a couple of missed dates or phone calls promised but never made will leave her with a desire for you equal only to thirst or hunger.

You experienced first hand how well this method worked when the Witchy Woman pulled it on you.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2000, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-she-put-a-spell-on-me/37746/29 "2000-10-24T20:39:33Z")

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Kama Sutra Honey Dust with the cute little feather duster. My first wife used it. It is kind of sexy. Liked it so much I got some for my second wife.

It isn’t pollen. It seems to be some kind of dehydrated powdered honey.

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