# Did "Special Forces" raid a CIA facility in Frankfurt? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 1, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874 "2020-12-01T00:57:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/1 "2020-12-01T00:57:11Z")
Trumpists are REALLY overjoyed about how Special Forces commandos raided a CIA facility in Frankfurt, Germany that may have contained hacked voting machines. Some soldiers may have died doing it, sadly. This is the big, big news story on Trump social media right now - and I cannot find a mainstream source that mentions it. Is this a total work of fiction that Trumpists now believe literally just happened? ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/2 "2020-12-01T01:10:33Z")
The source seems to be a phone interview from retired LtGen and repugnant human [Thomas McInerney](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_McInerney) calling into Worldview Radio. I can’t find any other sources, mainstream or not. I would guess “total work of fiction” at this point, it doesn’t even seem to be grounded in reality. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/3 "2020-12-01T01:25:31Z")
I just checked [spiegel.de](http://spiegel.de) and [faz.net](http://faz.net) and two of the most reputed news sources in Germany (for balance, one from the left and one from the right side of the spectrum), and I saw…crickets. Just as I expected. This story just seems to farfetched to be true. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/4 "2020-12-01T01:25:58Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > The source seems to be a phone interview from retired LtGen and repugnant human [Thomas McInerney](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_McInerney) calling into Worldview Radio. I can’t find any other sources, mainstream or not. I would guess “total work of fiction” at this point, it doesn’t even seem to be grounded in reality. From the link you posted, General McInerney seemed to have an impressive military career, retired in the early 90s, then subsequently lost his mind. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/5 "2020-12-01T01:29:57Z")
I’m all but certain it’s false. But if American forces did indeed raid a facility on a NATO ally’s soil, that would be historical and interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/6 "2020-12-01T01:37:17Z")
Admit it. We were all a little bit suspicious on Election Night when the mainstream media reported that Germany was casting its electoral votes for Biden. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/7 "2020-12-01T01:39:48Z")
Phooey. Trump’s watched too many GI Joe cartoons. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/8 "2020-12-01T01:50:09Z")
This is back? It’s been around for weeks. This is from Nov. 13. > **[Scytl Scuttled: Election Fraud Servers Seized By Huge U.S. Army Force in...](https://www.lenorathompsonwriter.com/beyondnarcissism/scytl-scuttled-election-fraud-servers-seized-by-huge-us-army-force-in-frankfurt)** > > Why the hell was the USA 2020 election data being stored on servers in Frankfurt, Germany owned by Scytl, a Spanish company? Yes, it’s entirely fiction. Every syllable. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/9 "2020-12-01T01:51:20Z")
It would be about the most 2020 twist to this year. (No, I don’t think that happened at all. And read my prior posts: I love to discuss conspiracy theories/Real Life as it happens to be. If I think this is unlikely, it’s _really_ damned unlikely. Now watch me be wrong.) ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/10 "2020-12-01T02:08:38Z")
These were the same brave men who stopped the carnage at the Bowling Green Massacre, and I won’t stand for y’all besmirching their honor and valor! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/11 "2020-12-01T02:45:36Z")
I like how she calls herself a writer instead of blogger. Also amusing is the number of commenters there who say they’ve checked legitimate news sources about this and dismiss those sources stating it’s all nonsense. I’ll add them to the list of those idiots referred to in a headline I saw this morning. Apparently there are people who believe Trump will actually be inaugurated for a second term next month. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/12 "2020-12-01T03:36:35Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > From the link you posted, General McInerney seemed to have an impressive military career, retired in the early 90s, then subsequently lost his mind. Does that make him the military version of Sidney Powell? I sometimes wonder how people with this lack of function… function. Anyone who has looked at the recent Giuliani and Powell court cases, however, would realize they can no longer hide their lack of functioning. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/13 "2020-12-01T05:35:28Z")
It’s hard to believe that this is the same Giuliani who was mayor of New York during 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/14 "2020-12-01T05:58:21Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I’m all but certain it’s false. But if American forces did indeed raid a facility on a NATO ally’s soil, that would be historical and interesting. And an _American_ facility at that. I’d think that would be even a bigger deal than it taking place in Germany. Do the U.S. Armed Forces and U.S. Central Intelligence Agency usually go around killing each other? I mean, on purpose? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/15 "2020-12-01T06:06:21Z")
I am a bit of expert on this- After you become one of the undead, your alignment changes. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/16 "2020-12-01T08:14:47Z")
No. > **[False reports claim election servers were seized in Germany](https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9754011363)** > > CLAIM: The U.S. Army raided the Frankfurt office of the Spanish election software company Scytl to seize servers that had evidence of voting irregularities in the Nov. 3 U.S. election.  AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Both the Army and Scytl told The... ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/17 "2020-12-01T14:50:46Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Admit it. We were all a little bit suspicious on Election Night when the mainstream media reported that Germany was casting its electoral votes for Biden. All the more perplexing since the persistent US complaint about the current German administration under Merkel is that it leans too much towards Russia. Given Trump’s evident alignment with Putin, you’d assume Merkel would throw her votes in with Trump, not Biden. Clearly there’s a hidden meaning-behind-the-meaning in here somewhere; perhaps QAnon will tell us what to think about it tomorrow. I sure hope so. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/18 "2020-12-01T16:36:19Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > It’s hard to believe that this is the same Giuliani who was mayor of New York during 9/11. It’s actually pretty easy. A lot of people outside of the NYC area don’t realize this is the same Giuliani who’s been there all along. Giuliani was not a beloved figure before 9/11. People in the NYC area thought he was an asshole. Some of them thought “Well, he’s an asshole who’s saying what I’m thinking so I’ll vote for him.” Then the 9/11 attacks happened while Giuliani was in office. And Giuliani was a smart enough politician to know how to say the right things in the aftermath. People instinctively want to rally to their leaders in a crisis. So Giuliani, like George W. Bush, enjoyed a wave of popular support after the attack. The difference is that most people outside of the NYC area didn’t know Giuliani before the attack. They had no preconceived image of Giuliani like they had with Bush. So they formed their impression of Giuliani at the one uncharacteristic time in his career when he was popular. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/19 "2020-12-01T16:46:11Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > All the more perplexing since the persistent US complaint about the current German administration under Merkel is that it leans too much towards Russia. Trump doesn’t have a lot of imagination. When he attacks his opponents, he just accuses them of doing whatever it is he’s been doing. Look at the things he said about Biden. That he’s too old. That he sexually assaults women. That he can’t speak coherently. That he practices nepotism. That his hair is fake. That he takes foreign help to get elected. Who does that sound like? When Trump accused Biden of pill popping, my first thought was “I didn’t know Trump was using drugs.” The one semi-original accusation Trump made against Biden was calling him a socialist. I will concede Trump is no socialist. Of course, neither is Biden. I guess Trump thought he was still running against Bernie Sanders. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874/20 "2020-12-01T16:51:32Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump doesn’t have a lot of imagination. When he attacks his opponents, he just accuses them of doing whatever it is he’s been doing. And it’s not just a lack of imagination. He thinks everyone is as corrupt as he is. BUT it’s not corruption in his ‘mind’, it’s his “business model”. Always has been. “The Art of the Steal” SOP. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-special-forces-raid-a-cia-facility-in-frankfurt/926874.md?page=2)