Did tall races of 8' ever exist?

You don’t believe these preposterous things, do you?

Wikipedia and other fairly reliable sources describe the height of Tutsis much more moderately, stating that some individuals have exceeded 7’ in height.

Pygmies and Watusi men do indeed exist. However, Watusi men are not typically “seven to eight feel tall”.

From Wikipedia page on Tutsi (Watusi).

http://foxsportsstories.com/2017/10/21/why-do-tall-people-usually-die-young/

All those healthy-looking people you see walking around who are 3 metres tall and have blue skin are actually Venusians. I’ll bet many of you didn’t know that.

At most? This is actually the goal. Prove that there were white people in New Zealand before the Māori and then you don’t have to honour the Treaty of Waitangi because it was “our” (white people’s) land all along! The giant bit is just a red herring.

I was reading that website and I’m actually rather horrified. You’ve found bone, removed it by destroyed where it was, have no idea how old they are, because you can’t date fossilized bone, and continue to chip away at the site.

Do you have anyone in your team who is a professional archeologist?

No, I think it is pretty clear that they are doing this criminally, and I hope that they are caught and given free room and board for an extended time.

Wow, well that’s quite the steaming pile isn’t it? :eek:

What I don’t really get though, and I ask this as Ngati Pakeha myself: why do they think it’d change anything? :dubious:

Let’s say, just making something up here, that some lost vikings had landed here, flourished for a while, and then died out. It was the Maori who were here when the British arrived, and it was with the Maori that the Treaty was signed. If we dug up some viking remains why would they be anything other than of historical interest?

It all looks like hokum anyway, but even if it turns out to have a basis: so what?

Yeah I know. I guess it would allow them to feel more aggrieved and no doubt gain some additional support.

There are movements in NZ to return land to the Maori which was taken by white settlers.

But if the Maori were, as the theory goes, themselves violent invaders who slaughtered innocent white settlers? Then all that land rightfully belongs to white people in the first place! Racist hokum.

From the New Zealand Archaeological Association:

Hey you don’t own a shovel by chance do you?

That’s their thought process, sure, but the reality is that the British signed the Treaty of Waitangi with the Maori chiefs. Evidence of previous occupation doesn’t change that. Anyway, unless the giants had a flag they have no rights to the land.

Oh sure, it’s like the Freemen of the Land stuff - it’s all based on nonsense imaginary legalism.

There are some telling quotes in the “why we started this” page, which I don’t care to directly link to.

“This country’s true ancient history has been covered up, secreted away, and legislated against. But why are moratoriums out to 2063? Well, all data by which treaty claims can be settled will be done in about 4 years time. That leaves 40+ years or so to iron out the details and probably cost NZ about a billion dollars. It’s all about the money. If Maori were not the first here, it might interrupt the money flow - at least by legal challenge.”

"Therefore, what I am doing here may prove dangerous. So before I outline this more, I need to point out that it is my belief that Waitaha, and others who were here before Maori, were a peaceful people and that Maori were a warlike people.

“That said, if I am threatened in any way by Maori, this will just confirm it. Revealing the peaceful pre-inhabitants who were hunted to extinction, will incur the same ‘spirit’ against me. I believe that spiritual things hang around succeeding generations, people, and even whole races. I believe an element of the warring and dominating spirit still pervades throughout Maoridom - not all, but most.”

So - it’s all a big conspiracy theory, and the OP is risking life and limb by exposing the truth about the evil Maori and their plan to suck a billion dollars away from the rightful heirs to New Zealand. Like all conspiracy theories, it’s a big multi-step plan where most of the bulletpoints are “???” and the final one is “the truth is revealed and the secret oppressive system is shattered!”

There was believed to once be a race of giants over 8’ tall, but archaeologists have now determined that every one of them was just three kids in a trenchcoat.

I have a great shovel, but I’m lazy. You’re welcome to come by and borrow the shovel.

I heard it was found to be perspective error and they were normal sized people who weren’t quite as far away as thought.

They were all Scheinriesen (illusory giants), from the Holy Book Jim Button and Luke the Engine Driver (German: Jim Knopf und Lukas der Lokomotivführer) by Our Prophet Michael Ende. Mr. Tur-Tur, the last known surviving member of this remarcable race seemed to grow bigger the farther away he was, but up close he was a gentle and modest person (and a vegetarian!). He lived a lonely and miserable life, because people got frightened when they saw him from far away, fled and never got close enough to see him as he really was.
The same may happen to the bones you are illegally excavating: they will turn smaller and smaller the closer you inspect them. All you will have in the end is dust and hopefully a jail sentence.

Well, the other possibility, which I think is more likely, is that there isn’t any actual digging and the whole thing is fiction.

Yes… :confused: There are ongoing official Treaty Settlements to make good where land was taken unlawfully (by the Crown or settlers)… we even have a Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations… (Not quite sure what you mean by “movements”.)

OK, so just a new twist on last century’s popularized belief that the Maori had themselves replaced (read: killed off and probably eaten) the earlier and more primitive Moriori, and were thus not really indigenous. :rolleyes: