# Did the 9-11 Attacks "Work?" **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 15, 2009, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-9-11-attacks-work/503088 "2009-07-15T05:27:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-9-11-attacks-work/503088/181 "2010-09-15T14:56:27Z")
> [@Mozart1220](#): > > Orwell would say “See, the government has duped it’s constituants, and the questioners are being shouted down and ridiculed. I was right” It sure is easy to put word in the mouths of dead people, huh? They can’t contradict you to tell you that your position is completely made of lies. BTW, you are not being ‘shouted down and ridiculed’. You are being asked to present evidence that has not been utterly debunked or discredited. Thus far everything you have given us might as well have come out of the Oliver Stone movie or Loose Change. ---
**Author:** ![Mozart1220](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Mozart1220](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mozart1220)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-9-11-attacks-work/503088/182 "2010-09-15T15:01:03Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > > [@Mozart1220](#): > > > > Orwell would say “See, the government has duped it’s constituants, and the questioners are being shouted down and ridiculed. I was right” > > It sure is easy to put word in the mouths of dead people, huh? They can’t contradict you to tell you that your position is completely made of lies. > > BTW, you are not being ‘shouted down and ridiculed’. You are being asked to present evidence that has not been utterly debunked or discredited. Thus far everything you have given us might as well have come out of the Oliver Stone movie or Loose Change. The “magic bullet”. Two bodies, two bones, and found pristine and intact on a stretcher. It had to change direction twice, while stopping cmpletely for almost a second in between. Boy, those Marine snipers are GOOD! Then there is the exit wound on Kennedy’s head being on the same side as the alleged shooter, that’s pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-9-11-attacks-work/503088/183 "2010-09-15T15:08:26Z")
> [@Mozart1220](#): > > The “magic bullet”. Two bodies, two bones, and found pristine and intact on a stretcher. It was not pristine -although it was intact. FMJ rounds do that. Why is this a surprise to you? Have a look at the end of the bullet and tell me that it is ‘pristine’ > **[McAdams's Kennedy Assassination Home Page Index](https://www.jfk-assassination.net)** > [@](#): > > It had to change direction twice, while stopping cmpletely for almost a second in between. Boy, those Marine snipers are GOOD! Straight from Oliver Stone, which was based on the idiotic ‘High Treason’ idea that Connelly and JFK were sitting ramrod straight, with their arms rigidly at their sides, and somehow at the same level despite the Limo seats being higher that the other. The reality of the bullet is somewhat less impressive: > **[McAdams's Kennedy Assassination Home Page Index](https://www.jfk-assassination.net)** > [@](#): > > Then there is the exit wound on Kennedy’s head being on the same side as the alleged shooter, that’s pretty good. It is also untrue. ETA- Sorry for all this JFK nonsense, folks. I was at least hoping he would keep to the 911 topics on this. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-9-11-attacks-work/503088/184 "2010-09-15T15:56:03Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > ETA- Sorry for all this JFK nonsense, folks. I was at least hoping he would keep to the 911 topics on this. So was I, but so far he’s demonstrated little interest in staying on any topic. Let’s make this official: This thread is for discussions of the effects of the September 11th attacks. Conspiracy theory discussions don’t belong here. [A discussion of the physics of the WTC collapse and the Pentagon impact make sense in this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=571341), so continue that conversation there. (If people continue posting about it here, I will move the posts or split them into a new thread.) **Mozart1220** and others: start a new thread if you want to comb over the JFK assassination and post about things that were beaten to death on this site years ago. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-9-11-attacks-work/503088/185 "2010-09-22T03:22:44Z")
Just to clear up some of Mozart’s misinformation for any lurkers here who haven’t been through this a million times before: > [@Mozart1220](#): > > Why did the “plane” that hit the Pentagon fly all the way around and conveniently hit the one section closed down for renovation? Fly all the way around? The plane came in from the west, and it hit the west side of the building. The plane never saw anything but its west/southwest side. > [@](#): > > Renovation to make it stronger against a MISSILE ATTACK? Primarily, to make it stronger against bombs, like the one that was used in Oklahoma City. > [@](#): > > And why were over 80 security camera tapes from various places areound the Pentagon confiscated and classified, leaving only one that showed NOTHING to be released? Detectives grabbed security camera tapes because they were hoping that some of them would show something. All but four showed nothing, because predictably most were pointed at the parking lots and doors of the businesses that operated them. There were four tapes released: two Pentagon parking lot security tapes, which didn’t show much because they only took pictures every half second, one from the Citgo gas station very close to where the plane flew by, and one from the Doubletree across the freeway. In the Citgo tape, you could see reflections when the fireball lit up, and the Doubletree tape showed the top part of the fireball (a freeway overpass blocked the impact point from view). > [@](#): > > I may be a nutcase, but so far no one can answer those questions. Happy to help. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-9-11-attacks-work/503088.md?page=9)