# Did the Norway shooter set some kind of record? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 12, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425 "2011-08-12T04:31:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/1 "2011-08-12T04:31:07Z")
In terms of shooting the most people in one day? Yeah the 911 guys and McVeigh killed a lot of people, but they did it with airplanes and a bomb. But this Norway guy seems to have killed an awful lot of people with nothing but guns. Seems like he may have the title for most people killed by shooting in one day. There may be some guy in a war that might have had more kills in a day during combat, but I can’t think of anyone who killed more in one day outside of war. Can anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/2 "2011-08-12T04:59:39Z")
I think you might be right. Looking at Wiki’s list of [spree killers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree_killer), he’s way at the top of the leader board. ---
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/3 "2011-08-12T05:14:52Z")
On your list, the runner up had to use a grenade. [Number three](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)) is pretty interesting, hadn’t heard of him before. He has to have the record for killing people in the most different places. Still reading, but it seems amazing nobody stopped him. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/4 "2011-08-12T05:20:42Z")
This site says it is: [http://worldrec.info/2011/07/25/deadliest-mass-shooting-by-a-single-gunman-in-history/](http://worldrec.info/2011/07/25/deadliest-mass-shooting-by-a-single-gunman-in-history/) > [@](#): > > It’s the deadliest mass shooting by a single gunman in history. The previous worst happened on 27th April 1982 when Woo Bum-kon, 27, a South Korean police officer shot dead 57 people (including himself) in Gyeongsangnam-do, South Korea using two M2 carbines and hand grenades in 8 hours. Looking down the list in the wikipedia page that SciFiSam linked to, it seems to agree that Anders Behring Breivik is in the number one spot and Woo Bum-kon is now in second. The wikipedia page for Woo Bum-kon also now says that his was the second most deadliest in history (looking in the history of that page it used to say it was the deadliest before the Norway killings). ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/5 "2011-08-12T05:43:21Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > On your list, the runner up had to use a grenade. [Number three](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)) is pretty interesting, hadn’t heard of him before. He has to have the record for killing people in the most different places. Still reading, but it seems amazing nobody stopped him. Yeah, he was the one that came to mind for me when reading the OP, but he killed half as many people as the Norway shooter. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/6 "2011-08-12T07:03:02Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > This site says it is: > > [http://worldrec.info/2011/07/25/deadliest-mass-shooting-by-a-single-gunman-in-history/](http://worldrec.info/2011/07/25/deadliest-mass-shooting-by-a-single-gunman-in-history/) > Looking down the list in the wikipedia page that SciFiSam linked to, it seems to agree that Anders Behring Breivik is in the number one spot and Woo Bum-kon is now in second. The wikipedia page for Woo Bum-kon also now says that his was the second most deadliest in history (looking in the history of that page it used to say it was the deadliest before the Norway killings). I read from a specialist on the subject that Breivik is actually of Chinese descent, and died his hair blonde. There must be a correlation between being Asian and getting a good score on your killing spree. ---
**Author:** ![Tetramydes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/41988e/32.png) [@Tetramydes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tetramydes)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/7 "2011-08-12T07:09:05Z")
Unless he’s disqualified for being an official executioner for the NKVD, I believe that Vasili Blokhin would be the all time leader in this event. Wikipedia credits him with personally shooting 250 a night for 28 nights, for a total of 7,000 during the Katyn Forest massacre. ---
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/8 "2011-08-12T07:39:04Z")
> [@Tetramydes](#): > > Unless he’s disqualified for being an official executioner for the NKVD, I believe that Vasili Blokhin would be the all time leader in this event. Wikipedia credits him with personally shooting 250 a night for 28 nights, for a total of 7,000 during the Katyn Forest massacre. Wowsers. But although I didn’t specify in the OP, I was actually most interested in “recreational” spree killers. Although I would like to know also about folks that racked up a big number in war. God, what a story! ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/9 "2011-08-12T07:59:51Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > I read from a specialist on the subject that Breivik is actually of Chinese descent, and died his hair blonde. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/10 "2011-08-12T10:26:59Z")
> [@Reply](#): > > Cite? [From the Master himself](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14055266&postcount=13) ---
**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/11 "2011-08-12T10:30:57Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > [From the Master himself](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14055266&postcount=13) That was not particularly funny if I may say so. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/12 "2011-08-12T12:27:56Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > Wowsers. But although I didn’t specify in the OP, I was actually most interested in “recreational” spree killers. Although I would like to know also about folks that racked up a big number in war. God, what a story! Who knows with a guy like that, he might have enjoyed it. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/13 "2011-08-12T19:20:18Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > it seems amazing nobody stopped him. People need to stop saying or implying this. When there’s a shooting going on and you’re approached by a uniformed police officer, it’s instinctive to think he represents safety, and leave your cover. It was easy to “rack up” so many kills because most of them were fucking kids. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/14 "2011-08-13T03:04:58Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > People need to stop saying or implying this. When there’s a shooting going on and you’re approached by a uniformed police officer, it’s instinctive to think he represents safety, and leave your cover. It was easy to “rack up” so many kills because most of them were fucking kids. I believe he was referring to [Martin Bryant](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)). You know, the link you cut out of the post you quoted. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/15 "2011-08-13T04:30:23Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > On your list, the runner up had to use a grenade. [Number three](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)) is pretty interesting, hadn’t heard of him before. He has to have the record for killing people in the most different places. Still reading, but it seems amazing nobody stopped him. Forgot to mention this before, but the reason nobody stopped him was because at each place it was really quick: > [@](#): > > 29 rounds were fired in the cafe and gift shop areas in approximately 90–120 seconds. In that time, Bryant killed 20 people. 20 people dead in under three minutes. And it was next to a historical reenactment area, so people didn’t realise what they were hearing and seeing was actually real. Then, when they did realise the magnitude: > [@](#): > > Most people did not know where Bryant was because the gunfire was extremely loud and difficult to pinpoint. It was not clear that Bryant was mobile, nor was it even clear from which direction the shots were coming. ---
**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/16 "2011-08-14T11:07:33Z")
Frankly, pissing off Scandinavians seems like a bad idea. If you’re looking for sheer body count, [this](http://www.badassoftheweek.com/hayha.html) annoyed Finnish farmer took out a total of 705 people. And they were all armed soldiers. (It did take him more than one day, though). ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/17 "2011-08-14T12:45:19Z")
The attack wasn’t supervised by Guiness, so no official record was set. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/18 "2011-08-14T15:28:30Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > I read from a specialist on the subject that Breivik is actually of Chinese descent, and died his hair blonde. There must be a correlation between being Asian and getting a good score on your killing spree. > [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > [From the Master himself](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14055266&postcount=13) [Moderator Note] **Capitaine Zombie** , if you want to take a dig at another poster, do it in the Pit, not in GQ. No warning issued, but don’t do this again. Colibri General Questions Moderator PS. I also note that referring to anyone but Cecil as “The Master” on this site is inappropriate and apt to cause confusion. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/19 "2011-08-15T09:45:07Z")
> [@pullin](#): > > Frankly, pissing off Scandinavians seems like a bad idea. If you’re looking for sheer body count, [this](http://www.badassoftheweek.com/hayha.html) annoyed Finnish farmer took out a total of 705 people. And they were all armed soldiers. (It did take him more than one day, though). Finns aren’t Scandinavians, though. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/20 "2011-08-15T11:19:24Z")
> [@Floater](#): > > Finns aren’t Scandinavians, though. They are often referred to as such. Nordic would be more accurate, but it is a lesser used word. I’m not even sure what the noun form is. In the same way, I believe if you want to be really anal, Danes aren’t Scandinavian either, but they are always referred to as such. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425.md?page=2)