# Did the Norway shooter set some kind of record? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 12, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425 "2011-08-12T04:31:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/21 "2011-08-15T11:42:52Z")
Finland is not included in Scandinavia (which is not the same thing as the Scandinavian peninsula) by us who live in the area and I think we should know best. 😉 Denmark, on the other hand, is included because they speak the same language as Norwegians and Swedes (yes, I regard it as one language with three major dialect groups). ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/22 "2011-08-15T19:11:25Z")
> [@Floater](#): > > Finland is not included in Scandinavia (which is not the same thing as the Scandinavian peninsula) by us who live in the area and I think we should know best. 😉 > > Denmark, on the other hand, is included because they speak the same language as Norwegians and Swedes (yes, I regard it as one language with three major dialect groups). I also live in the area. The difference is Swedish has a handy, often used word, ‘Norden’. The English equivalent, ‘The Nordics’, is used much less often and is more unwieldly due to it, well, being two words and a plural. ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/23 "2011-08-15T20:19:06Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > I believe if you want to be really anal, Danes aren’t Scandinavian either, but they are always referred to as such. You believe wrong. Scandinavia = Denmark + Sweden + Norway Fennoscandia = Scandinavia + Finland The Nordic countries = Scandinavia + Finland + Iceland The Scandinavian peninsula = Sweden + Norway ETA: Has anybody else noticed that Norway is omitted from the Scandinavian peninsula on the 1€ coins, with the result that Sweden and Finland look eerily like a big c_ck with b_lls? ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/24 "2011-08-16T00:33:17Z")
> [@Norse](#): > > You believe wrong. > > Scandinavia = Denmark + Sweden + Norway > Fennoscandia = Scandinavia + Finland > The Nordic countries = Scandinavia + Finland + Iceland > The Scandinavian peninsula = Sweden + Norway > ETA: Has anybody else noticed that Norway is omitted from the Scandinavian peninsula on the 1€ coins, with the result that Sweden and Finland look eerily like a big c_ck with b_lls? As I said, it depends on how anal you want to be. A very anal man could make claims that the peninsula is the geographical Scandinavia and everything else is either a political or cultural construct. Wiki ([Scandinavia - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia)) says that within Sweden, Norway and Denmark there is onlY one definition and all others are wrong. Problem is that that does not fly with me as Swedes routinely refer to Great Britain and the United Kingdom as England, so they’re as guilty as others when it comes to a lack of accuracy when talking about other areas of the world. In essence, in English, scandinavia very often refers to those three core countries plus add on bits, most often Finland. That may be considered wrong in the languages of the three core countries, but unfortunately I am writing in English. The many, many times I have been referred to as an ‘engelsman’ reminds me that the Swedish attitude is very much the same as mine here. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/25 "2011-08-16T01:26:22Z")
Who were his targets? ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/26 "2011-08-16T06:26:36Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Wiki ([Scandinavia - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia)) says that within Sweden, Norway and Denmark there is onlY one definition and all others are wrong. Problem is that that does not fly with me as Swedes routinely refer to Great Britain and the United Kingdom as England, so they’re as guilty as others when it comes to a lack of accuracy when talking about other areas of the world. So, two wrongs make a right? > [@DrDeth](#): > > Who were his targets? Which “who”? The Norway shooter? His targets were [the Government Quarter of Norway, and teenagers and tweens at a Labor Party summer camp](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks). ETA: [More](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=617348) [threads](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=617406) on [that](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=617907) [topic](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=618404) at the [SDMB](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=617556) ---
**Author:** ![TonKa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9f8e36/32.png) [@TonKa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonKa)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/27 "2011-08-16T06:54:38Z")
I think the question itself is sick. As if there is some kind of competition going on. How do you think people who lost a relative feel if they read this discussion? ---
**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/28 "2011-08-16T11:19:26Z")
> [@Norse](#): > > ETA: Has anybody else noticed that Norway is omitted from the Scandinavian peninsula on the 1€ coins, with the result that Sweden and Finland look eerily like a big c_ck with b_lls? There are new coins now where Norway is included: [http://images.google.com/imgres?q=euro&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=619&tbm=isch&tbnid=p1AG8zKVqVI7ZM:&imgrefurl=http://www.civitas.org.uk/eufacts/FSECON/EC4.htm&docid=53nUUHbiJK1gZM&w=600&h=585&ei=DFJKTvm1G4Sa-wb8xZSECQ&zoom=1](http://images.google.com/imgres?q=euro&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=619&tbm=isch&tbnid=p1AG8zKVqVI7ZM:&imgrefurl=http://www.civitas.org.uk/eufacts/FSECON/EC4.htm&docid=53nUUHbiJK1gZM&w=600&h=585&ei=DFJKTvm1G4Sa-wb8xZSECQ&zoom=1) ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/29 "2011-08-16T15:21:00Z")
I know. But those coins aren’t as funny as the old ones 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/30 "2011-08-16T16:47:14Z")
> [@Norse](#): > > Which “who”? The Norway shooter? His targets were [the Government Quarter of Norway, and teenagers and tweens at a Labor Party summer camp](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks). > > ETA: [More](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=617348) [threads](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=617406) on [that](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=617907) [topic](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=618404) at the [SDMB](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=617556) Yes, but since he hated Moslems, did he try to target Moslem teens? ---
**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/31 "2011-08-17T11:58:13Z")
No, he wanted to eradicate the next generation of Labour party leaders because he thought that the party was instrumental in allowing those dirty muslim bastards to move to Norway. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425/32 "2011-08-17T14:19:16Z")
> [@Floater](#): > > No, he wanted to eradicate the next generation of Labour party leaders Yeah, IMHO it was “political cleansing” instead of “ethnic cleansing.” Or maybe “particide” instead of “genocide.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-norway-shooter-set-some-kind-of-record/592425.md?page=1)