# Did the Page FISA applications omit?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-page-fisa-applications-omit/818620>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 26, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-page-fisa-applications-omit/818620 "2018-07-26T15:00:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-page-fisa-applications-omit/818620/261 "2018-08-15T15:58:36Z")

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> [@EasyPhil](#):
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> Better question, where’s the evidence to back up the claim that Page is a “foreign agent”? Answer: There is none.

There is a pretty strong piece of evidence that you have failed to address in both this and your other thread.

Carter Page claimed that Carter Page was a foreign agent.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-page-fisa-applications-omit/818620/262 "2018-08-15T16:28:02Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Why do you insist on not answering this very simple question? It’ll help clarify so many things! Under what circumstances would someone be under investigation but not under arrest?

:Raises hand: Ooh! Ooh! Teacher! Teacher! I know! Ooh! Ooh!

A person may be under investigation, but not yet arrested, because law enforcement is using the prospect of an impending indictment as the incentive to cooperate.

See, it’s fundamentally true that bad people tend to congregate with other bad people, to the exclusion of the good people who are trying to stop them from being bad. So when the good people try to gather evidence about what the bad people are doing, they usually have to rely on tips or information from other bad people. And since bad people usually don’t like to give tips or information to good people, those good people usually have to threaten the bad people with bad things (arrest, prosecution, jail time) _before_ they give up the tips or information.

This is how law enforcement investigations work.

**EasyPhil** , you crafted an entire thread devoted to your theory that Carter was an FBI mole. Why did you then run to an old thread to try it here, instead of defending your position where it was originally written?

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**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-page-fisa-applications-omit/818620/263 "2019-12-19T05:59:45Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Based on what **Bricker** and other lawyers report… NO.
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> As a teachable moment, you should notice, as I did already; that your cite there was a hiper-biased source that works also for the same FOX news that was found to mislead people about this case.

We now know that based on the IG Report, what **Bricker** and other lawyers reported…YES! As a teachable moment, you should notice that Fox News was pretty much on point with its reporting concerning this matter.

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