# Did the T-800 kill anyone in Terminator 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 13, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-t-800-kill-anyone-in-terminator-2/774585 "2016-12-13T03:29:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-t-800-kill-anyone-in-terminator-2/774585/1 "2016-12-13T03:29:18Z")
I don’t recall any actual killings he did on screen before John Conner told him not to kill anyone. Was it implied that he killed people in the 2nd Terminator movie or did he just wound and maim everyone? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-t-800-kill-anyone-in-terminator-2/774585/2 "2016-12-13T03:32:54Z")
I don’t think so, but I am curious to find out if my memory is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-t-800-kill-anyone-in-terminator-2/774585/3 "2016-12-13T03:33:20Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I don’t recall any actual killings he did on screen before John Conner told him not to kill anyone. Was it implied that he killed people in the 2nd Terminator movie or did he just wound and maim everyone? The biker he threw through the window is an unknown, but there were no signs he expressly killed anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-t-800-kill-anyone-in-terminator-2/774585/4 "2016-12-13T03:41:30Z")
Threw one guy out the window, stapled another guy to a table by his shoulder with a knife, threw a third guy onto a grill and stole his clothes. Next we see him, he’s walking through a mall with a shotgun, but it’s for the T-100. After that, he’s hell on some walls in the mall and some locked gates on the waterway, and then he meets John and gets rough with one of the guys in the parking lot before John says no killing. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-t-800-kill-anyone-in-terminator-2/774585/5 "2016-12-17T01:33:01Z")
On screen, no, just kneecapping and stuff. Before that? I’m guessing the rebels didn’t capture a T-800 without many casualties. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-t-800-kill-anyone-in-terminator-2/774585/6 "2016-12-17T01:36:14Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Threw one guy out the window, stapled another guy to a table by his shoulder with a knife, threw a third guy onto a grill and stole his clothes. …which was pretty typical for that bar on a Saturday night, so no big deal. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-t-800-kill-anyone-in-terminator-2/774585/7 "2016-12-17T02:33:18Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > On screen, no, just kneecapping and stuff. Before that? I’m guessing the rebels didn’t capture a T-800 without many casualties. In the novelization, which I’m absolutely willing to concede isn’t “canon”, the rebels pulled the T-800 they sent back out of a storage facility. It had never been activated before that mission. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-t-800-kill-anyone-in-terminator-2/774585/8 "2016-12-17T03:21:00Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > In the novelization, which I’m absolutely willing to concede isn’t “canon”, the rebels pulled the T-800 they sent back out of a storage facility. It had never been activated before that mission. That was basically the impression I got from the movie itself. Given how hard it is to kill those things, it seems unlikely that they incapacitated an active unit without blowing it into pieces. (My headcanon is that the resistance literally just re-ran the last “build a Terminator” order in the SkyNet factory, which duplicated the one SkyNet had just built to kill Sarah Connor. Which explains why two different “infiltration” units would have the same face: normally each Terminator is reconfigured so they don’t look alike, but the rebels didn’t care about that, and just used the most recent template for their “good” Terminator.) ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-the-t-800-kill-anyone-in-terminator-2/774585/9 "2016-12-19T20:47:49Z")
No explicit deaths in [the minigun scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RbL4PwTDsQ), but seems entirely feasible someone got hit by a stray round from all that shooting.