Did Trayvon Martin have the right to stand his own ground?

Did you not catch the word “crossfire”?

Reading comprehension. You can do it! I know you can!

Do us a favor and don’t attack us. See how easy that is? If you don’t attack people viciously then you don’t have to worry about getting shot.

There’s no crossfire in a point blank shot.

Figuratively-speaking, I think you’re outgunned. Maybe you should stay home?

Florida “violent” crime rates have gone down since “stand your ground” was passed.

He did keep a cool head. He only shot him once. He should have fired a grouping of shots. A police officer would have fired multiple shots. They would all have been grouped on center mass.

They’ve gone down all over. And of course, legalizing killing people will make the murder rate “go down”, because you’ve just legalized those murders.

I enjoy your crazy theory that Zimmerman “had full control of the gun at that point”. Have you ever fired a pistol? Have you ever fired a pistol while someone was punching you in the face? Have you ever fired a pistol while someone was banging your head on a concrete surface? How accurate were you?

Martin punched Zimmerman and knocked him to the ground. Martin continued to attack Zimmerman while Zimmerman lay on the ground calling to his neighbors for help. Martin didn’t have to start the fight and Martin could have stopped attacking Zimmerman at anytime.

And women wouldn’t get raped of they didn’t wear short skirts.

Please don’t liken self-defense to rape.

Not necessarily.

Do rape victims not have a right to self-defense?

It is the exact same logic they use, “had Martin not been waking in the dark in the rain, being black and thus looking creepy, Zimmerman would not had to follow him in a car for all that time and had Martin not run Zimmerman wouldn’t have needed to get out and and chase him down.”

I still don’t get why people think Martin had no right to fear for his life, he was being chased down in the dark by a larger adult male.

Because he was a young black male, and therefore in the eyes of many deserves no rights and no consideration whatsoever. If some passing gun nut or bigoted cop wanted to kill him, well, that’s just too bad. Legalizing the killing of “undesirables” like black males is part of the point of “stand your ground” laws; they are a means of legalizing murder against disliked groups of people. As we’ve seen in this case.

If you project a bigoted opinion on someone else, what does that make you?

Realistic.

No, I am afraid your opinions have nothing whatever to do with reality.

Regards,
Shodan

He was being followed by a shorter adult male who directed no violent threat at him.

He had every right to fear whatever he wanted to fear. He had no right to strike Zimmerman first, if that’s what happened.

Martin was NOT shot for any reason other than the fact that Martin had punched Zimmerman, breaking his nose, knocking him to the ground, and slamming his head on the ground.

Neither man had done anything illegal up to the point where Martin began throwing punches. Martin had several minutes headstart on Zimmerman from the time Zimmerman first lost sight of him. Martin could have run home in that amount of time. Martin didn’t need to approach Zimmerman unless Martin wanted to. Martin didn’t need to punch Zimmerman unless Martin wanted to. Martin didn’t need to straddle Zimmerman and beat his head on the ground unless Martin wanted to.

Unless you have some evidence that Zimmerman was NOT in fear for his life, Florida self-defense law does allow someone “who is in fear for their life” to use lethal force to protect themselves.

Regardless of what their attacker was wearing.

Umm…ever hear of “Blaming the Victims”

It is intresting how you put all these qualifications on what Martin “could have done” yet hand wave Zimmerman’s actions.

What part of “he kept following the poor guy” part of the story did you fail to notice.

Martin had been followed and chased by this guy for a significant amount of time, even after trying to get away from him for all that time you say “he should have just walked away”

That hadn’t worked for Martin before with this wacker, why do you think it would if he just did it one more time?

I noticed that Martin ran away. Zimmerman lost sight of Martin when Martin ran away. The original confrontation was over.

Martin had several minutes to go home or anywhere he chose to. Instead, Martin chose to approach Zimmerman from behind. The two men had a short conversation. Martin began punching Zimmerman.

Why are you blaming the victim of Martin’s assault for defending his life?

This is news to me. Can you provide a cite of Zimmerman’s account that Martin approached him from behind? Thanks.