# Did Trump not know that he was giving Bannon a seat on the NSC?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 6, 2017, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-trump-not-know-that-he-was-giving-bannon-a-seat-on-the-nsc/779149 "2017-02-06T08:25:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-trump-not-know-that-he-was-giving-bannon-a-seat-on-the-nsc/779149/41 "2017-02-10T10:20:44Z")

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This could be fake news, but I still want to keep repeating it.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2017, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-trump-not-know-that-he-was-giving-bannon-a-seat-on-the-nsc/779149/42 "2017-02-10T11:52:56Z")

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> [@standingwave](#):
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> Ever watch M_A_S\*H?
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> [https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/57/f8/27/57f827ba432867a9b8df400e452e04e3.jpg](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/57/f8/27/57f827ba432867a9b8df400e452e04e3.jpg)

Yes, and if anyone did that in a real organization they will be shit canned in seconds.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-trump-not-know-that-he-was-giving-bannon-a-seat-on-the-nsc/779149/43 "2017-02-11T04:47:42Z")

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> [@Evan\_Drake](#):
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> Really every businessman and CEO who ever saves time by dictating to a secretary is obviously illiterate.  
> _Napoleon sometimes dictated three, four, five, six, even seven letters at once on as many subjects to as many secretaries, never getting confused and always having in focus the significant points of the current subject._
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> **[Crescendo of the Virtuoso](http://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft438nb2b6&chunk.id=d0e16721&toc.depth=1&brand=ucpress)**  
> What a loser !

I never said the fact that he dictates his tweets means anything. Someone asked if he did and I stated that he says he does. I never even said he’s illiterate. I said you can make a case that he seems to be.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-trump-not-know-that-he-was-giving-bannon-a-seat-on-the-nsc/779149/44 "2017-02-11T15:44:28Z")

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> [@Evan\_Drake](#):
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> Really every businessman and CEO who ever saves time by dictating to a secretary is obviously illiterate.  
> _Napoleon sometimes dictated three, four, five, six, even seven letters at once on as many subjects to as many secretaries, never getting confused and always having in focus the significant points of the current subject._
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> **[Crescendo of the Virtuoso](http://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft438nb2b6&chunk.id=d0e16721&toc.depth=1&brand=ucpress)**  
> What a loser !

Yeah, and if you had a video of Trump pulling off that stunt, we might be impressed.

Instead, what we have are multiple videos of Trump staring blankly at the printed page, and then finding excuses to not read anything aloud.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-trump-not-know-that-he-was-giving-bannon-a-seat-on-the-nsc/779149/45 "2017-02-13T11:11:55Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> The NYT writes that:

As of the 6th he’d been President for less than three weeks. So when were these interviews actually done? Were they actually done? This strikes me as just a Jayson Blairesque piece of fiction.

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**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-trump-not-know-that-he-was-giving-bannon-a-seat-on-the-nsc/779149/46 "2017-02-13T15:55:38Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> As of the 6th he’d been President for less than three weeks. So when were these interviews actually done? Were they actually done? This strikes me as just a Jayson Blairesque piece of fiction.

They’re leaks. People in the WH are spilling these nasty stories on their own volition. So they may not all be 100% accurate, but I’d generally assume that someone did, in fact, tell the reporters these stories and someone else did, in fact, corroborate them. If the stories are false, blame the leakers - and think about their motives.

Jayson Blair was not working the WH beat. You really think the relevant editors at the NYT are accepting made-up fantasies from their WH reporters?

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-trump-not-know-that-he-was-giving-bannon-a-seat-on-the-nsc/779149/47 "2017-02-14T09:30:52Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> As of the 6th he’d been President for less than three weeks. So when were these interviews actually done? Were they actually done? This strikes me as just a Jayson Blairesque piece of fiction.

How much time do you think it takes to do a quick interview over the phone with a White House insider? This strikes me as a very odd quibble. We’re not talking about an official interview set up for some other purpose here, we’re talking about journalists reaching out for word on what is actually going in in the WH and/or insiders reaching out to journalists to vent their frustration.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-trump-not-know-that-he-was-giving-bannon-a-seat-on-the-nsc/779149/48 "2017-02-14T09:41:01Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> How much time do you think it takes to do a quick interview over the phone with a White House insider? This strikes me as a very odd quibble. We’re not talking about an official interview set up for some other purpose here, we’re talking about journalists reaching out for word on what is actually going in in the WH and/or insiders reaching out to journalists to vent their frustration.

I agree, it’s a very strange fact to dispute. Interviews can be by phone, email and over beers after work. Several news reports have noted how much this administration leaks. Not only that, there seems to be significant push back from career civil servants, including in the intelligence community who are leaking information. Their motives probably range from petty jealousies to people sincerely concerned about the fate of the nation.

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**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-trump-not-know-that-he-was-giving-bannon-a-seat-on-the-nsc/779149/49 "2017-02-14T09:52:57Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> How much time do you think it takes to do a quick interview over the phone with a White House insider?

Certainly; and over the phone it doesn’t even have to be a White House insider. Just someone who says they are.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-trump-not-know-that-he-was-giving-bannon-a-seat-on-the-nsc/779149/50 "2017-02-14T10:00:53Z")

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> [@Evan\_Drake](#):
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> Certainly; and over the phone it doesn’t even have to be a White House insider. Just someone who says they are.

I have to ask, do you honestly think that the NY Times doesn’t verify that their sources are who they say they are, especially for a major story about the president? If so, can I ask the source for that belief?

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-trump-not-know-that-he-was-giving-bannon-a-seat-on-the-nsc/779149/51 "2017-02-14T10:15:59Z")

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> [@Evan\_Drake](#):
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> Certainly; and over the phone it doesn’t even have to be a White House insider. Just someone who says they are.

Cute.

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