# Did we really go to the moon?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 6, 2008, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055 "2008-12-06T22:49:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055/81 "2008-12-09T01:50:56Z")

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Why aren’t there any denies chiming in here to defend their views?

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055/82 "2008-12-09T02:08:39Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> I see to recall that the problem was supposed to be radiation, not technology. The deniers somehow thought the Van Allen belts would prevent anyone from going through them without dying.

So, what then? They think the space-shuttle and International Space Station missions are all being faked, too? 😕

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055/83 "2008-12-09T02:17:17Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> > [@Voyager](#):
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> > I see to recall that the problem was supposed to be radiation, not technology. The deniers somehow thought the Van Allen belts would prevent anyone from going through them without dying.
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> So, what then? They think the space-shuttle and International Space Station missions are all being faked, too? 😕

The space shuttle and ISS operate at a much lower altitude than the Apollo missions (two or three hundred miles vs. a quarter of a million miles); they take place below the Van Allen radiation belts and are not as exposed to radiation as the Apollo missions are.

(Of course the Moon landing hoax theory is still completely whack.)

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055/84 "2008-12-09T02:18:29Z")

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I recall some serious pre-mission concerns about the Van Allen Belts.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055/85 "2008-12-09T02:22:48Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> The space shuttle and ISS operate at a much lower altitude than the Apollo missions (two or three hundred miles vs. a quarter of a million miles); they take place below the Van Allen radiation belts and are not as exposed to radiation as the Apollo missions are.
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> (Of course the Moon landing hoax theory is still completely whack.)

> [@mangeorge](#):
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> I recall some serious pre-mission concerns about the Van Allen Belts.

Thanks for the info on the Van Allen belts, but gee, now I really am having doubts about the moon missions. ☹

(I keed, I keed.)

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055/86 "2008-12-09T02:25:55Z")

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The _real_ cover-up is that, as a result of exposure to the radiation of the Van Allen belts, the Apollo astronauts all developed superpowers.

Bart Sibrel is lucky Buzz Aldrin didn’t launch him into orbit with that punch.

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**Author:** ![Skylark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Skylark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skylark)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055/87 "2008-12-09T02:27:07Z")

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It’s a fact we went to the moon. Don’t believe me? I have [photographic proof](http://www.scene360.com/img/zoom/EDITINGroom_zimage_study_melies_smash_moon.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055/88 "2008-12-09T03:27:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Yes
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> believe it or don’t

Oh, I know that you can do pretty much anything with enough signal to noise. I was just commenting on the spelling of “if” with three "f"s. “Iff”, with two "f"s, refers to a necessary and sufficient condition, or “if and only if”, but I’m not aware of any usage spelled “ifff”.

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055/89 "2008-12-09T03:58:22Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> The _real_ cover-up is that, as a result of exposure to the radiation of the Van Allen belts, the Apollo astronauts all developed superpowers.
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> Bart Sibrel is lucky Buzz Aldrin didn’t launch him into orbit with that punch.

I personally saw Jim Lovell open a Pepsi can from six feet away, using only his prehensile tongue. True story!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055/90 "2008-12-09T04:05:23Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> I personally saw Jim Lovell open a Pepsi can from six feet away, using only his prehensile tongue. True story!

Marilyn Lovell is a lucky, lucky woman…

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055/91 "2008-12-09T04:14:20Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Oh, I know that you can do pretty much anything with enough signal to noise. I was just commenting on the spelling of “if” with three "f"s. “Iff”, with two "f"s, refers to a necessary and sufficient condition, or “if and only if”, but I’m not aware of any usage spelled “ifff”.

iffff

ifffff

it will blow your mind bayyybeee

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055/92 "2008-12-09T05:57:36Z")

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If I were charged with the task of making 1970s TV videos of astronauts frolicking but not kicking up clouds of dust, I’d use small particles, like BBs, instead of real dirt. They’d fall back to the ground real nice. Of course we’d also need sets of real dirt for the high-res still photos, but I could do the videos.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-we-really-go-to-the-moon/476055/93 "2008-12-09T07:02:05Z")

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> [@mangeorge](#):
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> I find interesting similarities between this and the “OJ didn’t do it” crowd.  
> There’s a name for it isn’t there? (“something” hysteria?)

[Denialists](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism)

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