# Did you guys know that Evil Captor likes bondage? With bonus fuck-off for Miller!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 17, 2005, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510 "2005-11-17T17:31:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/1 "2005-11-17T17:31:54Z")

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I have no protest about the closing of the other thread - we all know the rules about bringing business from other boards over here. That said, **inkleberry** posted something I’ve been thinking about posting for a long time.

**Evil Captor** , I too am not amused by the constant references to bondage. It seems like virtually every thread you post references your interest in it. Hell, even your screen name does. It’s fine to be into whatever you like - bondage, S&M, whatever, it’s all cool as long as it’s Safe, Sane, and Consentual.

But I don’t appreciate hearing references to it in every thread. I don’t know why you do this - do you get off to the idea that you’re making other people uncomfortable? Or are you not a BDSM afficionado so much as a creepy pervert with a one-track mind? Let’s face it, BDSM is an unconventional interest, which doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with it, but that the subject matter makes certain people uncomfortable for their own reasons. Which you know. Further, constant references to sex would unpleasant even if it were the plain ol’ vanilla variety.

It’s clear that many of the threads you post, you’re not looking for real information. Let’s face it - the web is not exactly conducive to shyness about one’s sexual interests. There are a wealth of boards dedicated to people with various unusual or obscure special interests, and you could go there if you were really looking for subject matter expertise. The SDMB is a fine general purpose board, but just as I wouldn’t use it to find serious linguistic information or references on the lingering influence of Le Corbusier’s _Ville Radieuse_ on modern city planning, you’re not going to find specific information on bondage here. If you want specific questions answered, I’m sure you know where to look. Since you seem to enjoy just chit-chatting about bondage so damn much, you know where there are more appropriate places for that too. Stop fucking trying to constantly drag the rest of us into your jerk-off fantasies.

I’m just creeped out by your obvious and exhibitionistic need to bring bondage up at completely inappropriate times. Develop some hobbies that don’t involve women being tied up, for Christ’s sake.

> [@Miller](#):
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> Maybe it’s because I’m currently beating my head against a brickbaconwall in a GD thread about gay rights, but I’m getting mightily sick of people judging others for having a different sexuality. You don’t like Evil Captor’s posts? Put him on your fucking ignore list, already. Nobody cares about your goddamned hangups.

And **Miller** , fuck you for trying to turn this into an issue of sexual minorities versus majorities. The nature of **Evil Captor** ’s sexual interest is neither here nor there, so long as it’s not his only fucking topic of conversation. A fair enough comparison would be if you or I decided to use the screen name “ILuvItUpTheButt” and start threads about how _The Talented Mr. Ripley_ would have been way better if we’d seen Matt Damon giving Jude Law a rimjob. Do not cheapen the struggle for gay rights by drawing inapt comparisons to this. The things gay people are fighting for are things like the right not to be fired from your job for being gay, or the right to inheritance when your partner dies, or the right to make medical decisions on your partner’s behalf. A crusade for mainstream acceptance of BDSM is not even remotely comparable, because it’s an explicitly sexual matter - it doesn’t extend out of the bedroom, and BDSM enthusiasts don’t face remotely the same discrimination that gay people do.

Fuck you. Fuck you for cheapening the very real and important matter of gay rights by comparing it to some pervert’s desire to talk about sex in completely inappropriate circumstances. The fetishistic nature of his sex life is not even relevant to the issue, so fuck you for suggesting that those of us who don’t enjoy **Evil Captor** ’s litany of references to rape porn are prejudiced against BDSM. It wouldn’t be appropriate for anyone to explicitly and constantly discuss sex acts here, and **Evil Captor** the Exhibitionist Bondage Freak is no exception.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/2 "2005-11-17T17:37:56Z")

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So… he’s like a one-trick ponygirl?

😃

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**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/3 "2005-11-17T17:39:50Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> So… he’s like a one-trick ponygirl?
> 
> 😃

Doing a bad movie style slow clap…That was brilliant.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/4 "2005-11-17T17:57:57Z")

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Man, all these years I’ve been posting here, I finally get pitted… and I can’t really say the OP doesn’t have a point. Man, that’s disappointing. I’d always hoped that my first pitting would be a vicious, multi-page affair that would result in multiple bannings and a change in board policy. Anyway, I had a long day yesterday, was frustrated by the GD thread, and posted more out of emotion than rationalism. I still think **inkleberry** , and you, are being a pair of whiny bitches about this in general, but the parrallel I created was inappropriate. My apologies.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/5 "2005-11-17T18:00:39Z")

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Hey could someone have the screenname “RapeYouLikeABitch”? I hope not. Just like I wish I didn’t have to have my day ruined by the images conjured up by EC. I mean fuck who wants to think of Dahmer or NG or Gacy when chatting with friends? Those fuckers were Evil Captors. Sexual fantasies fine but EVIL sexual fantasies? Props to Excalibre for saying what I wished I had said.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/6 "2005-11-17T18:03:52Z")

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Population of Internet Messageboard is Whiny, Insecure, and Intolerant of Others; Film at 11. In other news, Pope’s hat found to be ‘funny’.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/7 "2005-11-17T18:05:57Z")

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I’ve gotta say that until this thread turned up (and the other one, which, IMO was rightly closed), I’d never noticed anything unusual or obsessive in **E\_C** ’s posts. Granted, I guess I haven’t bothered to open bondage-related threads, mostly because I’m not into that sort of thing. It certainly doesn’t bother me overmuch. Consenting adults and all that.

Now, I have looked at the list in the closed thread, and it seems that only some of the listed items actually refer specifically to bondage, so for me the argument here is pretty weak.

Anyway, do tell us just how many bondage-related threads each poster is allowed, in your view, just in case one day I decide to adopt that particular kink.

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/8 "2005-11-17T18:08:52Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> Safe, Sane, and Consentual.

Nitpick.  
\*  
Consensual.\*

/Nitpick

😃  
Just trying to lighten the mood.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/9 "2005-11-17T18:09:03Z")

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The only time I noticed **Evil Captor** ’s username is when he was arguing against torture, and hence I found the name ironic.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/10 "2005-11-17T18:13:34Z")

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I’m not a Pit Moderator, but it could be some time before anyone gets here.

Flaming other members is one thing.

Pulling in fights from other boards is something else. We do not permit this.

And orchestrated campaigns against a member are something else again. We do not permit this, either. If you have a complaint against a member’s specific post, use the REPORT BAD POST button (little exclamation point in the red triangle in the upper right corner of each post.) Let the Moderators decide.

If you have a complaint against a member per se, then ditto.

And no, “RapeYouLikeaBitch” wouldn’t be allowed. Screen names are monitored. Granted, they’re not monitored up front – trying to program in every possible offensive name would be ridiculous, and holding up registration until an Administrator can OK a name would also be ridiculous. So they’re usually monitored after registration: we see someone posting with a name that is not reasonable, and then we nicely ask them to pick a less offensive screen name.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/11 "2005-11-17T18:14:52Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I’ve gotta say that until this thread turned up (and the other one, which, IMO was rightly closed), I’d never noticed anything unusual or obsessive in **E\_C** ’s posts.

I missed the other thread, but I’ve read hundreds of **Evil Captor** ’s posts without having a clue to his particular sexual preferences.

Of course, I didn’t realize until earlier this year that **Miller** is gay and his SO also posts here. And I’ve read _thousands_ of his posts over the years. So maybe I’m a bit too oblivious to be a good data point here.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/12 "2005-11-17T18:15:26Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> It wouldn’t be appropriate for anyone to explicitly and constantly discuss sex acts here, and **Evil Captor** the Exhibitionist Bondage Freak is no exception.

Miller, I don’t think your analogy was flawed, because in the past “Exhibitionist Bondage Freak” could just as easily have been “Faggot Sicko”, and people would have been horrified at disgusting homos talking about their dirty sex and stuff.

He has an interest in BDSM, and posts occasionally on that topic, along with a ton of posts on other topics like politics. Actually, I always remember him from those discussions, not anything sexual. Yeah, maybe he’d get some better info at Bondage dot com, but we are free here to post about most any legal thing we want. Not to mention that 20 sex threads over 3 years isn’t exactly approaching one trick pony territory.

If he’s hijacking threads with his bondage talk, I could see slamming him for that. But pitting him for starting clearly marked threads that you find offensive is just nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/13 "2005-11-17T18:22:17Z")

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> [@C K Dexter Haven](#):
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> I’m not a Pit Moderator, but it could be some time before anyone gets here.
> 
> Flaming other members is one thing.
> 
> Pulling in fights from other boards is something else. We do not permit this.
> 
> And orchestrated campaigns against a member are something else again. We do not permit this, either. If you have a complaint against a member’s specific post, use the REPORT BAD POST button (little exclamation point in the red triangle in the upper right corner of each post.) Let the Moderators decide.

I understand both those things, and as I stated in the OP, I only posted this because I’ve happened to think the same thing for a long time and I was disappointed to see **inkleberry** ’s thread closed. The fact that two people happen to agree on something does not constitute an “orchestrated campaign”.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/14 "2005-11-17T18:26:27Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Miller, I don’t think your analogy was flawed, because in the past “Exhibitionist Bondage Freak” could just as easily have been “Faggot Sicko”, and people would have been horrified at disgusting homos talking about their dirty sex and stuff.

Not at all. _As I said in the OP,_ I don’t care about his interests and I don’t find BDSM even faintly upsetting. However, I find **Evil Captor** ’s constant references to it irritating and the pattern I’ve seen makes him seem exhibitionistic; _that_ is the behavior that makes him a freak - the bondage here isn’t really a central issue here at all. Exhibitionism in real life is generally considered a type of sexual assault. While I don’t think **Evil Captor** is a raincoated pervert who gets his jollies showing off to women in shopping malls, I do think that his unending references to it here are pretty much the same impulse.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/15 "2005-11-17T18:27:41Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Of course, I didn’t realize until earlier this year that **Miller** is gay and his SO also posts here. And I’ve read _thousands_ of his posts over the years. So maybe I’m a bit too oblivious to be a good data point here.

Naw, you’re not oblivious. I only came out about a year ago.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/16 "2005-11-17T18:32:41Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> Not at all. _As I said in the OP,_ I don’t care about his interests and I don’t find BDSM even faintly upsetting. However, I find **Evil Captor** ’s constant references to it irritating and the pattern I’ve seen makes him seem exhibitionistic; _that_ is the behavior that makes him a freak - the bondage here isn’t really a central issue here at all. Exhibitionism in real life is generally considered a type of sexual assault. While I don’t think **Evil Captor** is a raincoated pervert who gets his jollies showing off to women in shopping malls, I do think that his unending references to it here are pretty much the same impulse.

I often randomly interject pop culture references, puns, etc into posts. Because I enjoy those things. It irritates some people. What makes EC’s situation different?

Or should we not be allowed to talk about things that irritate you, personally? Do we need to run each post by you, so you can decide if we’ve exceeded our quota for posting about our hobbies?

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/17 "2005-11-17T18:40:48Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> I understand both those things, and as I stated in the OP, I only posted this because I’ve happened to think the same thing for a long time and I was disappointed to see **inkleberry** ’s thread closed. The fact that two people happen to agree on something does not constitute an “orchestrated campaign”.

There is a thread in ATMB where Inkleberry admits that other people ‘helped’ her find all those posts. People agreeing with a pit OP is nothing new and we have all seen pileons. But this shit storm started brewing on another message board.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/18 "2005-11-17T18:40:49Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> I often randomly interject pop culture references, puns, etc into posts. Because I enjoy those things. It irritates some people. What makes EC’s situation different?
> 
> Or should we not be allowed to talk about things that irritate you, personally? Do we need to run each post by you, so you can decide if we’ve exceeded our quota for posting about our hobbies?

Did you miss the bit where I explained why I find this creepy and exhibitionistic? Like I said, I think he gets off on using this place as a spot to constantly bring up a taboo subject; I find that creepy and inappropriate, and pretty similar to him exposing himself. Only here it’s him exposing his interest in rape and whipping.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/19 "2005-11-17T18:46:00Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> There is a thread in ATMB where Inkleberry admits that other people ‘helped’ her find all those posts. People agreeing with a pit OP is nothing new and we have all seen pileons. But this shit storm started brewing on another message board.

Uh, context. **C K** brought up the fact that we don’t tolerate organized attacks here - and since I had already disclaimed any involvement in such in the OP, it seemed like a covert accusation that I had been involved. As I said in the OP, I understand perfectly why **inkleberry** ’s thread was closed - she admitted having “help” in the original Pit thread as well as the ATMB one. Read the whole thread before replying.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/20 "2005-11-17T18:50:37Z")

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> [@C K Dexter Haven](#):
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> .
> 
> Pulling in fights from other boards is something else. We do not permit this.
> 
> .

I understand this rule.  
I also understand why the other thread was closed.

However, I do not understand this point’s relevance in this thread **unless** you’re also attempting to state that if a topic is simulatenously being posted about on another board, we cannot discuss it here.

is that the case?

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