# Did you guys know that Evil Captor likes bondage? With bonus fuck-off for Miller! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 17, 2005, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510 "2005-11-17T17:31:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/21 "2005-11-17T19:26:50Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > Did you miss the bit where I explained why I find this creepy and exhibitionistic? Like I said, I think he gets off on using this place as a spot to constantly bring up a taboo subject; I find that creepy and inappropriate, and pretty similar to him exposing himself. Only here it’s him exposing his interest in rape and whipping. That’s a pretty deep psychoanalysis based on some pretty scant observation there, Freud. Bondage is a ‘taboo’ subject? On THIS messageboard? Prudish much? ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/22 "2005-11-17T19:31:28Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > Did you miss the bit where I explained why I find this creepy and exhibitionistic? . It might not cross his mind that it might make readers uncomfortable. I say so because it doesn’t cross mine, either. I’m familiar with the concept, discussed it many times, and this board is on the overall quite open-minded. So, when I mentionned BDSM here, I never stopped to wonder whether or not it would unease some readers. By the way, I too didn’t know that Miller was gay. Or maybe forgot. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/23 "2005-11-17T19:36:05Z")
I’ve never noticed any bonadage references either. Maybe you are noticing them too much, OP. Just sayin… ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/24 "2005-11-17T19:37:11Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > That’s a pretty deep psychoanalysis based on some pretty scant observation there, Freud. Bondage is a ‘taboo’ subject? On THIS messageboard? > > Prudish much? I admit to some bemusement that **Excalibre** is being motivated by the “ick” factor here. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/25 "2005-11-17T19:44:25Z")
I once had a two or three post tiff with Evil Captor and being the paranoid, vengeful, grudge-holding kind of guy I am, I was pissed at him for like 10-20 minutes. Since then, I’ve really enjoyed his posts and I never thought he was any more obessesed with kinky sex than the rest of us. I don’t believe he deserves this pitting at all. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/26 "2005-11-17T19:47:16Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > I admit to some bemusement that **Excalibre** is being motivated by the “ick” factor here. Or, to psychoanalyze… _puffing on pipe_ Excalibre is projecting his own view of bondage as a Taboo onto Evil Captor… whereas Evil Captor, as evidence suggests, does not regard to subject as taboo at all. Further, EC’s posts haven’t, in the past, gotten much of a rise… no pun intended… out of the SDMB populace … so the assertion that EC is posting them to somehow intentionally upset people is… unsupportable. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/27 "2005-11-17T19:56:12Z")
I like to think I am a BDSM afacianado AND a creepy pervert. But the one-track mind? I can’t help you on that one. Most of my posts here about politics. LIke, 90 percent or more of them. I also post about sex and bondage because I like them, and like discussing them. But don’t worry, I’m not getting off on it in the way you apparently think I am. I’m married and I have access to all sorts of hard-core internet pron on my home computer. And most of all, there’s hentai. That is GREAT stuff! And I CREATE softcore bondage porn. Over several years, I’ve made over $16,000 selling my bondage porn on the Web. Ain’t life grand? It’s not quit yer job money, but it’s nice. AFAIC the stuff you’re reading here is mild indeed … sort of like seeing a pic of a sexy babe in a comic book. Nice, but not really masturbatory fodder. Of course, if I were a REAL pervert, the kind you apparently think I am, I’d be lying about that. I’d LIVE to be posting on topics like “Since When Did the Olympics Get All Naked?” and “Help Me With My First In Bondage on TV and in the Movies” article. I’d REALLY be getting off on that stuff. Secretly. I might indeed find THIS VERY THREAD exciting. Hu-hu-hu-hu-hu-hu-hu-hu… But seriously, if you’ve got a problem with sexual bondage as a topic for this board, spit it out, gummy-boy. Otherwise, vamoose. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/28 "2005-11-17T19:59:40Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > That’s a pretty deep psychoanalysis based on some pretty scant observation there, Freud. Bondage is a ‘taboo’ subject? On THIS messageboard? > > Prudish much? Oh, gosh, you’re right. I’m a prude about bondage. You’ve figured me out - in spite of my claims to the contrary! In other words, you’re a pretty good psychoanalyst yourself! Nope, actually, I got nothing against bondage. Nor just about any kind of kinky sex you could name. And I have nothing against discussions of it at appropriate times and places, either. However, anywhere and anytime do not qualify as ‘appropriate’ in my book, even here on the SDMB. I’m not grossed out by it. I’m just annoyed. I’m just plain sick of it. I’m sick of reading threads that _aren’t_ about bondage, finding a post by **Evil Captor** , and sarcastically saying, “Oh, gosh, what a shock. I had no idea he was into that. Because he’s never mentioned it before!” So I decided to say so publicly instead. He posts about bondage so constantly that it’s getting on my nerves. If you don’t believe he hijacks threads, here’s what I found with search: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6794307&highlight=bondage#post6794307](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6794307&highlight=bondage#post6794307) Unrelated movie thread, and our pal **Evil Captor** _just happens_ to mention his own interest in bondage. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6680949&highlight=bondage#post6680949](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6680949&highlight=bondage#post6680949) Another CS thread; in this one, he mentions how much he liked a rape scene in a movie he otherwise hated. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6406087&highlight=bondage#post6406087](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6406087&highlight=bondage#post6406087) Discussing L&O:SVU (one of my favorite shows, incidentally - I remember exactly when I came across his post.) Someone discussed the possibility of the main characters getting romantically involved. Not to be outdone, **Evil Captor** discusses the possibility of him whipping her! [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6395951&highlight=bondage#post6395951](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6395951&highlight=bondage#post6395951) Hentai is better than regular anime! Because it has bondage! [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6224101&highlight=bondage#post6224101](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6224101&highlight=bondage#post6224101) What movies have scenes after the credits roll? Well, **Evil Captor** helpfully comes up with some bondage porn films that do! (Or possibly softcore sexploitation B-movies - I don’t know. Still not the subject of the thread.) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6285033&highlight=bondage#post6285033](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6285033&highlight=bondage#post6285033) He does screencaps from movies. But get this: they’re _bondage_ movies! [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6365358&highlight=bondage#post6365358](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6365358&highlight=bondage#post6365358) Discussion of the possibilities of electronic-neural integration. Completely gratuitous reference to nuns in - wait for it - _bondage!_ [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5518263&highlight=bondage#post5518263](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5518263&highlight=bondage#post5518263) “Is the Western nearly extinct?” Yes it is, says **Evil Captor**. Unless it integrates other genres. Like bondage porn. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5061803&highlight=bondage#post5061803](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5061803&highlight=bondage#post5061803) It’s a political thread. But we discover in it that **Evil Captor** _writes bondage fiction!_ [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5034052&highlight=bondage#post5034052](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5034052&highlight=bondage#post5034052) A discussion of movies you’d like to make. **Evil Captor** ’s idea is called _Dancing Slavegirls of Mars_. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4894620&highlight=bondage#post4894620](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4894620&highlight=bondage#post4894620) In which we learn that **Evil Captor** watches Lifetime movies - _for the bondage scenes!_ [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4849264&highlight=bondage#post4849264](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4849264&highlight=bondage#post4849264) _Buffy_ would have been better if only Warren, Andrew and Jonathan had been successful in turning Katrina into their slavegirl. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=2874529&highlight=bondage#post2874529](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=2874529&highlight=bondage#post2874529) He didn’t watch the Golden Globes, but he’d like to know if any actresses were there - _in bondage gear!_ And here’s threads he started that gratuitously mention it: [Recommend me a discussion board site or software](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6502248&highlight=bondage#post6502248) - and it’s revealed in the first post that, you see, he needs to organize his bondage essays! [What cable channel(s) would you like to created, and what should they show?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5326264&highlight=bondage#post5326264) Which he starts and then immediately offers up his own suggestion: The Bondage Channel! These are just what I could dig up real quick without help. I don’t doubt there are others. It’s the constant, gratuitous, even deceptive attempts to bring up bondage where it’s completely irrelevant that piss me off. And, once again for (the slightly dull-witted) **CandidGamera** : I ain’t a prude. And I have nothing against discussions of sexual matters - whatever the sort - here on the SDMB. But whether they’re things I’m into or not, I’m not interested in constant, gratuitous mentions of them. It becomes gross and creepy when I start noticing that every post of his seems to be about bondage. Movies we should add bondage to. TV shows that need more bondage. _Wonder Woman_ covers interpreted as lesbian bondage. (Okay, never mind that last one, it’s obviously no real leap. :)) His constant habit of bringing it up is, yes, creepy. And unpleasant. And gross. If it was something non-sexual, it’d just be annoying. But the fact that it’s sexual suggests that either he thinks of nothing _but_ bondage sex, or he particularly gets off on inserting bondage \*Gotcha!\*s into irrelevant places. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/29 "2005-11-17T20:09:37Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > Oh, gosh, you’re right. I’m a prude about bondage. You’ve figured me out - in spite of my claims to the contrary! In other words, you’re a pretty good psychoanalyst yourself! Nope, actually, I got nothing against bondage. Nor just about any kind of kinky sex you could name. And I have nothing against discussions of it at appropriate times and places, either. However, anywhere and anytime do not qualify as ‘appropriate’ in my book, even here on the SDMB. I’m not grossed out by it. I’m just annoyed. Why should I take you at your word, if you’re not taking Evil Captor at his? Why does the fact that his hobby is sexual in nature alter your perspective on it, so, if indeed you are not a prude? You may regard me as slow-witted if you like, but please have a better justification than that I don’t interpret your somewhat self-contradictory statements in the manner you desire. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/30 "2005-11-17T20:17:46Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > You may regard me as slow-witted if you like, but please have a better justification than that I don’t interpret your somewhat self-contradictory statements in the manner you desire. Did you pay \*any \*attention to the links listed at all? ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/31 "2005-11-17T20:18:32Z")
> [@wring](#): > > I understand this rule. > I also understand why the other thread was closed. > > However, I do not understand this point’s relevance in this thread **unless** you’re also attempting to state that if a topic is simulatenously being posted about on another board, we cannot discuss it here. > > is that the case? It would certainly decrease the stress on the hamsters. Like, to zero. To the OP: I understand your point, but I think it’s just like any other hijack; the content is just a bit, um, different. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. And of _course_ it’s exhibitionistic. We’re on a message board and are encouraged to express our opinions. We’re _all_ exhibitionists to a certain extent. Some more than others is all. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/32 "2005-11-17T20:18:41Z")
Substitute “Fluffy snugle bunny straight vanilla sex” for the word bondage in EC posts and it would be just as annoying. The guy clearly has a fetish. And he clearly likes to share his fetish with us. Just as some of us clearly do not appreciate being unwilling participants in his fetish. I do not care what fetish a person has, it gets annoying though when it is all they seem to talk about. ---
**Author:** ![archmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@archmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/archmichael)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/33 "2005-11-17T20:20:23Z")
I heard he hangs out at bondage messageboards and makes constant ‘vanilla’ references. Now that’s just sick. 😃 People feel we’re already hog-tied with a lot of posting rules. Not allowing bondage references seems like pointless ball-gagging of a free expression. I figure different paddle strokes for different folks. ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/34 "2005-11-17T20:21:49Z")
You have a crush on Evil Captor, don’t ya. Why else would you lavish him with such attention? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/35 "2005-11-17T20:22:08Z")
Holy shit did I miss the irony in my above post? Or what? Christ to complain about being an unwilling participant in a thread complaining about a person with a bondage fetish… I crack me up… ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/36 "2005-11-17T20:23:05Z")
> [@Dorjän](#): > > You have a crush on Evil Captor, don’t ya. Why else would you lavish him with such attention? 😉 No, no… **Evil Captor** is a top, he does the lavishing. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/37 "2005-11-17T20:25:35Z")
Dear **Excalibre** : Get a job. Your pal, –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/38 "2005-11-17T20:32:36Z")
From a quick sampling of the first five links, nobody in the threads seemed to even notice Evil Captor’s bondage references, except in the L&O thread. In that thread, there didn’t seem to be anyone batting an eye at the bondage reference, except to suggest it as a spinoff show. Yeah, he’s really ruining the threads he participates in. Some people have a knack of making threads they participate in all about them, and their little fetishes, Evil Captor is not one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/39 "2005-11-17T20:46:19Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > Why should I take you at your word, if you’re not taking Evil Captor at his? Because, **CandidGamera** , I’m not stupid. And not being stupid means that I have the capacity to examine a situation and draw conclusions based on it. In this case, my conclusion is based on his tendency to drop bondage, whipping, and rape references into completely irrelevant discussions at every opportunity. See, I’ve noticed **Evil Captor** ’s behavior for quite some time now, and it’s simply not credible, in my opinion, that his utterly gratuitous mentions that he likes bondage are not motivated by some gleeful feeling of being naughty, at very least. The threads he started on the subject, linked by **inkleberry** in the other thread, demonstrate that at times he starts threads simply to fish for wank material. Now, my dear **CandidGamera** , you have simply used a clumsy _tu quoque_ here. Something like, “You think he’s lying? Well, I think _you’re_ lying! How do you like that, Mr. Smartypants?” Now, were you not stupid, as I am not, you would instead base your conclusions on observing behavior. I certainly don’t have a long-standing pattern of objecting to discussions of kinky sex. You don’t have a shred of evidence to support your contention that I’m lying and am secretly a prude - nope, the best you can manage is the sort of mindless equivalency that says, “If one person is doing it, we can axiomatically assume that his opponent is doing it to!” That’s bad enough when it comes to political threads and the inevitable mindless idiot piping up to say that both parties are the same and all politicians are evil. But when you’re making personal accusations against me, it moves beyond mere stupidity to become offensive as well. As a matter of fact, I have sexual interests that many people would find quite disgusting or even frightening. However, I have the social graces and the dignity not to mention them at every possible opportunity, because I believe that ones private interests should be disclosed in a circumspect manner and only where it is relevant. That’s not to say I wouldn’t participate in a discussion of sexual matters, just that I have the common courtesy not to drag my own pecadillos into every thread I see. > [@CandidGamera](#): > > Why does the fact that his hobby is sexual in nature alter your perspective on it, so, if indeed you are not a prude? Because, as I have already explained, the surprise mentions of it are basically the equivalent of a guy groping women on the subway. Getting a big handful of boob with the right person at the right time and place is a completely different matter than doing it to a stranger in public. Look at the threads **inkleberry** linked, and the posts I linked above. It’s obvious that he gets a gleeful little kick out of bringing his fetish up. Hey, that’s a natural impulse. It’s fun talking about what turns you on. But, as I said, there’s a time and a place for everything. As **Miller** showed in the first thread on the subject, there are few topics that won’t bring out the heard of people reminding us in their nasal PC voices that we shouldn’t judge anyone, and that those of us who don’t wish to see something are being “intolerant.” Well, I don’t feel the remotest distaste for bondage, personally. I just find it distasteful to try to sneak it into every discussion. **Miller** is the type of person who would file a lawsuit claiming discrimination if he got fired for wearing assless chaps to work. And you, **CandidGamera** , are apparently the type who would vociferously defend him, and make baseless accusations that anyone who dislikes seeing assless chaps at the grocery store is secretly a homophobic bigot. Good job, you guys. Good job to everyone who piped up with veiled (or not-so-veiled) charges of bigotry. Great way to not only weaken a word that describes a very real phenomenon in the real world by mindlessly tossing it out whenever anyone disagrees with you. In case none of you people are aware, real discrimination against the BDSM crowd happens. Have you guys forgotten that the DSM-IV still categorizes it as a “mental illness”? Have you forgotten the widespread persecution of people trying to run businesses serving the BDSM community? Have you forgotten that people have _lost custody of their children_ because the wrong person found out that they were into BDSM? Don’t make baseless accusations about bigotry, because that makes every real instance of it that much harder to fight. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510/40 "2005-11-17T20:47:29Z")
> [@Uvula Donor](#): > > Did you pay \*any \*attention to the links listed at all? Yes. They offered no insight into the question of whether or not Excalibre is a prude, and are a vanishingly small percentage of Evil Captor’s posting history, and thus don’t offer much of a picture in that respect, either. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-guys-know-that-evil-captor-likes-bondage-with-bonus-fuck-off-for-miller/331510.md?page=3)