Did you have a UFO experience?

[QUOTE=jjimm]
Damn you all. I spent twenty entire minutes staring into the night sky over Area 51 from Rachel, Nevada, and - nada. I feel conned.

ETA: I did hear a shooting star once though. It went “shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhsh”.
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Quiet was it?

Actually I have not only had a UFO experience but I’ve met an Alien.

I’m not allowed to tell of my UFO (official secrets act) but I can tell you all about the alien.

He was from Egypt :smiley:

My UFO experience happened as follows …

Around 1980 I was alone and sound asleep in my apartment a few miles west of downtown San Antonio, Texas and just off Fredericksburg Road. My sleep was absent of dreams and it was near dawn when, in what only took a moment, I suddenly found myself standing inside a UFO spacecraft!

I somehow knew right away that I was on board one, as I was 100% awake and could lightly feel the ambient air on my skin, as well as hear a soft humming sound. Right in front of me was a gray metal counter that stretched to my left and right, and which had seated flush within it a TV monitor that was set at an angle that allowed me to look directly at it. By that I mean that the monitor was more on the side-angle part of the counter, and not on the top, flat area of it.

The moment I became aware of being on aboard, I saw out of my peripheral what looked like a small monkey sitting just slightly to my left and on top of the counter. It appeared to be one of those types of monkeys that one would see in movies with organ grinders, sitting on their shoulders.

When I “materialized,” the monkey became somewhat startled and scampered off to my left and out of view. My eyes were focused for the entire few seconds that this whole experience took on the monitor in front of me. And all I saw in the monitor was the darkened earth below and some clouds that were maybe a thousand or so feet below from where I was standing. And, too, there was a scattering of lights on the ground far below, such as street lights and lights from buildings and such. As I looked at the scene, it seemed evident that the craft wasn’t moving at all.

And then, in that brief moment of standing inside the UFO, while looking at the earth below, I heard a man’s crystal-clear voice say (from my left): “The entire North American continent is becoming mechanized.”

Immediately after I heard him say those words, I was back in my bed!

I don’t have any explanation as to why this event happened to me. But, just speculating, I can’t help but wonder if the guy might have somehow knew that I’m a person that’s had many strange experiences throughout my life, and that perhaps in the event that I’m one day able to put them all together and make sense out of them, then, as an aside, he/they want me to also make known what I was told … and who it was that told me.

This UFO experience of mine doesn’t stop here. …

Around 1983 I was in the city I’m in now, and so one night it happened that I was (alone) watching the strange news TV show called “A Current Affair,” hosted by Morrey Povich (sp?). And on this particular show was a video that some people in South Carolina sent in concerning some strange lights in the night sky near their house.

From the back yard, the home video showed about a dozen small, bright lights that zigged-zagged back and forth. And as they did, you could hear the couple asking what they were as well as hear their neighbors asking the same thing. Then, after the objects left, the couple took the video in and reviewed on their VCR and TV what it was that they’d captured on tape.

Astonishingly, they noticed that while following the objects with their camera, they’d inadvertantently caught a part of their house that included a window. Thus it was clear that on the windowsill inside of their house, a small monkey was shown walking and then pausing half way to stop and look out at them filming (before continuing on)!

I could hardly believe it. I had been given some serious confirmation that my own UFO experience 3-years earlier was indeed as real as it had seemed at the time!

And as if all that wasn’t enough, about 5-years ago I was listening to Coast To Coast (a national radio program that discusses UFOs and other strange stuff) and some guy called in from Seattle, I think it was, and related how he’d had an odd experience involving a money.

As I recall, he said that many years ago he’d been working as a police officer in Alaska and one night had gotten a call that a warehouse alarm had gone off. So he and his partner drove out there and inspected but could find no sign of forced entry. And so, according to him, as they were discussing the situation they noticed a bluish orb a bit bigger than a basket ball moving along the side of the warehouse, and inside of the orb was a small monkey that was running so as to power the orb forward!

I don’t recall him saying that they chased it or anything (which seems a little odd to me that they wouldn’t), just that he said it was “the damnest thing” he’d ever seen.

So there you have it folks; maybe it’s all too far out to be believed, but with respect to my own experience, I know it in fact happened just that way. And before anyone decides to flame me, let me add that the UFO guy never told me to “go tell the world.” I just share it here because I want to.

I must say that I do kick myself for going back to sleep after I was deposited back in my bed, when I should have put some clothes on and ran outside to see if I could see it in the sky. Oh well, darn. And, too, I wish I would have noted the date and time.

All of this, as well as a lot of other things, give me a lot to think about. Like that '80s punk rock song goes, Life is so strange when your destination’s unknown.

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
My UFO experience happened as follows …

Around 1980 I was alone and sound asleep in my apartment a few miles west of downtown San Antonio, Texas and just off Fredericksburg Road. My sleep was absent of dreams and it was near dawn when, in what only took a moment, I suddenly found myself standing inside a UFO spacecraft!

I somehow knew right away that I was on board one, as I was 100% awake and could lightly feel the ambient air on my skin, as well as hear a soft humming sound. Right in front of me was a gray metal counter that stretched to my left and right, and which had seated flush within it a TV monitor that was set at an angle that allowed me to look directly at it. By that I mean that the monitor was more on the side-angle part of the counter, and not on the top, flat area of it.

The moment I became aware of being on aboard, I saw out of my peripheral what looked like a small monkey sitting just slightly to my left and on top of the counter. It appeared to be one of those types of monkeys that one would see in movies with organ grinders, sitting on their shoulders.

When I “materialized,” the monkey became somewhat startled and scampered off to my left and out of view. My eyes were focused for the entire few seconds that this whole experience took on the monitor in front of me. And all I saw in the monitor was the darkened earth below and some clouds that were maybe a thousand or so feet below from where I was standing. And, too, there was a scattering of lights on the ground far below, such as street lights and lights from buildings and such. As I looked at the scene, it seemed evident that the craft wasn’t moving at all.

And then, in that brief moment of standing inside the UFO, while looking at the earth below, I heard a man’s crystal-clear voice say (from my left): “The entire North American continent is becoming mechanized.”

Immediately after I heard him say those words, I was back in my bed!

I don’t have any explanation as to why this event happened to me. But, just speculating, I can’t help but wonder if the guy might have somehow knew that I’m a person that’s had many strange experiences throughout my life, and that perhaps in the event that I’m one day able to put them all together and make sense out of them, then, as an aside, he/they want me to also make known what I was told … and who it was that told me.

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There are at least two explanations of this.

  1. Aliens using stealth technology and instantaneous matter teleportation have made the decision to alert Earth that they exist by giving you this experience. Having crossed interstellar space they are relying on you to reveal the greatest news our species has ever known.
    Sadly they gave you no scientific proof of their existence - and you have waited 26 years to tell the World by posting anonymously on a message board.

  2. You had a dream.

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]

This UFO experience of mine doesn’t stop here. …

Around 1983 I was in the city I’m in now, and so one night it happened that I was (alone) watching the strange news TV show called “A Current Affair,” hosted by Morrey Povich (sp?). And on this particular show was a video that some people in South Carolina sent in concerning some strange lights in the night sky near their house.

From the back yard, the home video showed about a dozen small, bright lights that zigged-zagged back and forth. And as they did, you could hear the couple asking what they were as well as hear their neighbors asking the same thing. Then, after the objects left, the couple took the video in and reviewed on their VCR and TV what it was that they’d captured on tape.

Astonishingly, they noticed that while following the objects with their camera, they’d inadvertantently caught a part of their house that included a window. Thus it was clear that on the windowsill inside of their house, a small monkey was shown walking and then pausing half way to stop and look out at them filming (before continuing on)!

I could hardly believe it. I had been given some serious confirmation that my own UFO experience 3-years earlier was indeed as real as it had seemed at the time!

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No, ‘serious confirmation’ would be a spaceship landing outside the UN building.
All that happened is that in your dream you remembered a monkey and aliens together.
Then at any future time in your life, whenever these two objects appeared together coincidently, you would assume it was a sign. For example, watching ‘Planet of the Apes’.

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]

So there you have it folks; maybe it’s all too far out to be believed, but with respect to my own experience, I know it in fact happened just that way. And before anyone decides to flame me, let me add that the UFO guy never told me to “go tell the world.” I just share it here because I want to.

I must say that I do kick myself for going back to sleep after I was deposited back in my bed, when I should have put some clothes on and ran outside to see if I could see it in the sky. Oh well, darn. And, too, I wish I would have noted the date and time.

All of this, as well as a lot of other things, give me a lot to think about. Like that '80s punk rock song goes, Life is so strange when your destination’s unknown.
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I’ll be polite, but the total sum of your experience is that you were asleep, then you ‘saw’ something, then you were awake.
This is easily explained another way.
Now if the aliens had given you something (e.g. knowledge of a forthcoming Nova; which they would know about well before us), that would have been helpful.
But us scientific types are going to say the simplest explanation is the most likely.

Also I am bothered why you wouldn’t tell the World. As I said, if it happened, this is the greatest event in human history. Why keep it a secret?

glee: Thanks for your reply.

You managed to blow-off everything I said with an arrogance that wasn’t totally unexpected. Did I not make it clear that it was not a dream? Or does your “scientific” mind somehow allow you to travel way back in time to San Antonio and step into my head to know the truth of what I’d experienced?

Why do you presume to know that the being(s) that took me aboard to impart the message I was given were committed to your timeline (for whatever these matters may ultimately be about)? Who are you to dismiss my account because supposedly I had “waited 26 years to tell the world by posting anonymously on a message board”? And on top of that, did you not see where I’d stated that the guy never told me to “go tell the world”? (Who’s the one asleep, glee?)

For your information, I have in fact shared this with a number of folks throughout the years, including the now part-time host of “Coast to Coast,” Art Bell. So, you see, you shouldn’t be quite so quick to assume that I kept matters to myself, I haven’t. (And I will continue to share where and when I feel inclined to do so, even if it means that I risk running into “experts” that sit annonymously in front of their computers attempting to casually dismiss my account of things with their baloney.)

As I said, I just posted what I’d posted because I thought some folks might like to read about it and, who knows?, maybe even keep it in the back of their minds… .

It’s not my fault if you think that the “A Current Affair” episode I mentioned doesn’t seem rather intriguing with the way it relates to my own experience, especially when one combines those two monkey/UFO accounts with the account that the ex-cop gave on Mr. Bell’s program. But then I guess to your “scientific” way of thinking you can easily dismiss the whole shittencabootle no matter what, right? After all, UFOs cannot be real because they don’t follow your notion of how thing should be and what they’re about because, after all, they haven’t landed in front of the UN building!

[QUOTE=Team of Scientists]
Your story about the cat has me wondering whether you’re being facetious here, but it was probably a satellite. They look much like stars from here and move very much in the way you describe.
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Oh, I’m sure that’s what it was. Since then I’ve seen that phenomenon several times, but that first time was a bit puzzling.

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
glee: Thanks for your reply.

You managed to blow-off everything I said with an arrogance that wasn’t totally unexpected. Did I not make it clear that it was not a dream? Or does your “scientific” mind somehow allow you to travel way back in time to San Antonio and step into my head to know the truth of what I’d experienced?

Why do you presume to know that the being(s) that took me aboard to impart the message I was given were committed to your timeline (for whatever these matters may ultimately be about)? Who are you to dismiss my account because supposedly I had “waited 26 years to tell the world by posting anonymously on a message board”? And on top of that, did you not see where I’d stated that the guy never told me to “go tell the world”? (Who’s the one asleep, glee?)

For your information, I have in fact shared this with a number of folks throughout the years, including the now part-time host of “Coast to Coast,” Art Bell. So, you see, you shouldn’t be quite so quick to assume that I kept matters to myself, I haven’t. (And I will continue to share where and when I feel inclined to do so, even if it means that I risk running into “experts” that sit annonymously in front of their computers attempting to casually dismiss my account of things with their baloney.)

As I said, I just posted what I’d posted because I thought some folks might like to read about it and, who knows?, maybe even keep it in the back of their minds… .

It’s not my fault if you think that the “A Current Affair” episode I mentioned doesn’t seem rather intriguing with the way it relates to my own experience, especially when one combines those two monkey/UFO accounts with the account that the ex-cop gave on Mr. Bell’s program. But then I guess to your “scientific” way of thinking you can easily dismiss the whole shittencabootle no matter what, right? After all, UFOs cannot be real because they don’t follow your notion of how thing should be and what they’re about because, after all, they haven’t landed in front of the UN building!
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I didn’t intend to be rude.

Nevertheless you gave an account which could easily be a dream.
You don’t have any physical evidence that you did instantaneously travel to a spaceship and back.
How do you know it wasn’t a dream?

As for telling the World, you said you wonder if ‘he/they want me to also make known what I was told’.
If they didn’t want you to tell anyone, presumably interstellar travellers have the technology to easily remove your memories of the event.
I presume you agree that alien contact would be the most significant event in the history of our species.
Why wouldn’t you tell everyone?
When you first posted, you didn’t mention you had told anyone this before. I simply assumed you hadn’t.

As for my scientific beliefs, I do believe in aliens. Since life exists on one planet, and there are a massive number of planets, there is a decent chance of life elsewhere in the Universe.
Well worth investigating e.g. with SETI.
However there is no evidence that aliens have actually visited us. The only accounts we have are all similar to yours: lights in the sky and memories of an alien pickup.
I would love to meet beings capable of interstellar travel. Think of what they could teach us.
Sadly almost all lights in the sky turn out to have mundane explanations and there is never any supporting evidence for abductions.

As for aliens landing in front of the UN, why wouldn’t they? It would be the quickest way to establish contact. They will know plenty about us from monitoring radio transmissions.

[QUOTE=glee]
I didn’t intend to be rude.

*Okay, sorry for the misunderstanding in that case. It just seemed (to me) that within all of your presumption and the tone, there was. But let’s move on. :slight_smile:

Nevertheless you gave an account which could easily be a dream.
You don’t have any physical evidence that you did instantaneously travel to a spaceship and back.
How do you know it wasn’t a dream?

*Socrates said: “The only thing I know is that I know nothing.” Like him, I “know” nothing (with absolute 100% certainty) but I do know (in a manner of speaking) that it was no dream. Lack of physical evidence doesn’t discount for me the fact that the experience happened the way I said. Also, I can never quite understand why so many people seem to think that they can get inside the heads of these alien beings and say that these beings would do this or do that, and therefore… And isn’t it possible that we’ll never know really exactly what their intentions are unless they come straight out and make things known either by way of telling us through some sort of communication or through their actions (and thus we can only speculate)?

As for telling the World, you said you wonder if ‘he/they want me to also make known what I was told’.

*I don’t have the text and context in front of me at the moment, but I don’t think that’s quite what I said. Plus I don’t follow what you mean.

If they didn’t want you to tell anyone, presumably interstellar travellers have the technology to easily remove your memories of the event.

*Presumedly the guy could have killed me, too, and deposited my dead body back in my bed. Again, I only related my experience as it happened; whether people wish to read something into it or dismiss it as total hogwash is up to them.

I presume you agree that alien contact would be the most significant event in the history of our species.

  • Maybe so, but I’m still trying to get my mind around the fact that I exist, that I live in what’s called a human body, that me and my body live on this thing called planet earth, that this thing called planet earth moves through this thing called space, that a thing called our sun (somehow) keeps the whole works going … and so on and so on. So I confess that I don’t see really all that much significance in one thing versus another, as it all strikes me as being pretty mindboggling.

Why wouldn’t you tell everyone?

  • I mentioned that I’ve told many. It would only get me thrown on a mental ward if I stood outside on a stand and started shouting things about this experience I had. All in all I suspect that the universe is working itself out in a way that a higher power is okay with.

When you first posted, you didn’t mention you had told anyone this before. I simply assumed you hadn’t.

*There’s a million, billion things that I haven’t said; just not enough time. Plus I didn’t think anyone would assume that I hadn’t.

As for my scientific beliefs, I do believe in aliens. Since life exists on one planet, and there are a massive number of planets, there is a decent chance of life elsewhere in the Universe.

*Agreed.

Well worth investigating e.g. with SETI.

*As far as I’m concerned these beings, and no doubt others, too, are here among humans. And when one really gets down to it, what exactly is “human”? (For example, were those human beings involved with doing the evil in the “Wichita massacre”?)

However there is no evidence that aliens have actually visited us. The only accounts we have are all similar to yours: lights in the sky and memories of an alien pickup.
I would love to meet beings capable of interstellar travel. Think of what they could teach us.

*I’d pray that they’d teach us to get along.

Sadly almost all lights in the sky turn out to have mundane explanations and there is never any supporting evidence for abductions.

*I heard something about there being a downed craft from many years ago in Lake Michigan. And supposedly there’s going to be an attempt to bring it up this summer.

As for aliens landing in front of the UN, why wouldn’t they? It would be the quickest way to establish contact. They will know plenty about us from monitoring radio transmissions.
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*Your last sentence might be why they do things the way they do, i.e. they know us.

[QUOTE=glee]

I didn’t intend to be rude.

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[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
Okay, sorry for the misunderstanding in that case. It just seemed (to me) that within all of your presumption and the tone, there was. But let’s move on.

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Appreciated.

I accept that you sincerely believe you had an abduction experience.
Nevertheless my frame of reference is that of a scientist examining the evidence (and I think the philosophy of this board goes along with that: ‘we need a cite!’)

[QUOTE=Glee]

You gave an account which could easily be a dream.
You don’t have any physical evidence that you did instantaneously travel to a spaceship and back.
How do you know it wasn’t a dream?

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[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]

*Socrates said: “The only thing I know is that I know nothing.” Like him, I “know” nothing (with absolute 100% certainty) but I do know (in a manner of speaking) that it was no dream. Lack of physical evidence doesn’t discount for me the fact that the experience happened the way I said. Also, I can never quite understand why so many people seem to think that they can get inside the heads of these alien beings and say that these beings would do this or do that, and therefore… And isn’t it possible that we’ll never know really exactly what their intentions are unless they come straight out and make things known either by way of telling us through some sort of communication or through their actions (and thus we can only speculate)?

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Again, I accept that you believe in your experience.
The difficulty for me is that people do have vivid dreams, and that what you went through could be fully explained that way.

I certainly don’t know how an alien would behave.
However they must certainly be incredibly technically advanced to have crossed space and reached us.
It seems a sensible conclusion that they would want to know about us (do we present a threat? do we have knowledge of use to them?).
Also, do they want us to know about them or not? It is very frustrating to abduct people, but leave them no evidence to prove that.

The alternative for the lights in the sky is that are satellites / planets / aircraft / lighthouses etc and many sightings have been proved to be exactly that.

[QUOTE=Glee]

If they didn’t want you to tell anyone, presumably interstellar travellers have the technology to easily remove your memories of the event.

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[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]

Presumedly the guy could have killed me, too, and deposited my dead body back in my bed. Again, I only related my experience as it happened; whether people wish to read something into it or dismiss it as total hogwash is up to them.

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Leaving a dead body would provoke an investigation. If the aliens exist, they are scrupulous in concealing the evidence.
I don’t dismiss your testimony as ‘total hogwash’. I suggest it could have been a dream, which is a perfectly normal occurrence.
I would love to find out aliens exist. I just need some evidence that they have visited. Sadly eye-witnesses are sometimes innocently mistaken. (I believe that no court will convict on eye-witness evidence alone, for example.)

[QUOTE=glee]

I presume you agree that alien contact would be the most significant event in the history of our species.

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[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]

  • Maybe so, but I’m still trying to get my mind around the fact that I exist, that I live in what’s called a human body, that me and my body live on this thing called planet earth, that this thing called planet earth moves through this thing called space, that a thing called our sun (somehow) keeps the whole works going … and so on and so on. So I confess that I don’t see really all that much significance in one thing versus another, as it all strikes me as being pretty mindboggling.

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I agree that it all seems amazing!
But we have successfully produced a theory of gravity and can now competently predict the behaviour of planets and stars. We know to the second when eclipses will occur and where you can view them from. We have travelled 250,000 miles through space and landed on the Moon.
We have viewed supernovas from light-years away, and watched comets re-appear with metronomic precision.
All this is down to the scientific method, which is why I believe so strongly in it.

[QUOTE=Glee]

Why wouldn’t you tell everyone?

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[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]

  • I mentioned that I’ve told many. It would only get me thrown on a mental ward if I stood outside on a stand and started shouting things about this experience I had. All in all I suspect that the universe is working itself out in a way that a higher power is okay with.

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I know of no law which allows the State to imprison you or certify you mad for telling your experiences.

[QUOTE=Glee]

As for my scientific beliefs, I do believe in aliens. Since life exists on one planet, and there are a massive number of planets, there is a decent chance of life elsewhere in the Universe.
Well worth investigating e.g. with SETI.

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[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]

*As far as I’m concerned these beings, and no doubt others, too, are here among humans. And when one really gets down to it, what exactly is “human”? (For example, were those human beings involved with doing the evil in the “Wichita massacre”?)

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What is your evidence that aliens are amongst us?
Sadly human beings are capable of great evil. We don’t need aliens for that sad state of affairs.

[QUOTE=Glee]

Sadly almost all lights in the sky turn out to have mundane explanations and there is never any supporting evidence for abductions.

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[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]

*I heard something about there being a downed craft from many years ago in Lake Michigan. And supposedly there’s going to be an attempt to bring it up this summer.

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This would be great news. Do you have a cite?

I thought I posted this last week, but I don’t see it. Maybe the aliens deleted it.

When I was younger I was very interested in the whole UFO / alien abduction phenomena. One year our family traveled to Pensacola, Florida to attend a wedding. To my delight, Gulf Breeze (a small town just a few miles from Pensacola) was known as a UFO “hotspot.” I managed to drag my dad and sister to the beach one night so we could look for UFOs. Sure enough, we saw what appeared to be a bright star or satellite zig-zagging through the sky. It abruptly changed speed and direction, and my dad (who I thought would never consider the possibility of UFOs) was astonished. Pretty cool.

That’s my only UFO encounter. I still have very emotional, sometimes irrational reactions to seeing pictures or drawings of the typical “grey” alien, though. And I’m 27. Anyone else freeze up when they see the cover of Whitley Strieber’s Communion?

In the mid 80’s, before it was made public, I saw a B2 bomber fly over at night.

It was maybe 11:30PM or so, I had just pulled into the drive and went around the garage into the back yard to take a leak. The stars were bright and I was looking up when the unmistakable (now) silhouette of a B2 passed almost directly overhead, made a slight jog to the right and then resumed its course due north. It was totally black except for the slightest hint of reflection on the nose and wingtips, it just blanked out the stars as it passed by. Totally silent, not more than several hundred feet altitude. Plenty low to make out the outline.

When the B2 was unveiled, I knew instantly what I’d seen.

I lived on the far southwest edge of town. When it went over and did it’s jog to the right, that made it pass basically directly over town and continue north.

It never for a second occured to me that this was an alien craft, but I’ve always been a bit of an aviation enthusiast. If a non enthusiast had seen the same thing, I can see where they might come away totally thinking it was an alien craft.

No, but like Kokopilau I have experienced psychological states that could easily be mistaken for a UFO experience. One night I had an episode of sleep paralysis/lucid dreaming, and in my waking-dreamlike state, a painfully bright light accompanied by a loud roar came right up to my bedroom window, after which there was a blank period followed by a return to normal wakefulness.

It was only a dream, of course, but man, it felt so real. I can see why less skeptical people who experience the same psychological phenomena believe they’ve been abducted.

I was in North Carolina, Ft Bragg, in June 1985 for some summer training and I saw something when we were out on a field exercise. We had put in a full day and evening of training, and were bivouaced out on one of the ranges. I was making my rounds; the sky was clear and the stars bright. Up in the sky, I observed a persistent phenomenon for about 10-15 minutes. What I saw appeared to be a linear object approximately the size of a half or quarter match stick held at arms length, with what appeared to be flame coming from one long edge. The object just sort of hung there, with the odd slow-motion looking flames coming off one side. I pointed it out to the senior NCO, and he agreed with what I said I saw. We watched it for about 15 minutes off and on, and it stayed in roughly the same part of the sky.

And then I went to bed. It’d been a long day.

My theory is that it was a large piece of space debris burning up in the upper reaches of the atmosphere. Never seen anything like it before or since.

glee – if you email “Coast To Coast am” and ask them if they might provide a cite for you on the UFO that’s going to be pulled up from Lake Michigan this summer, I’m sure they’ll help you in that regard. It was from listening to their show several months ago that I heard about it. Good Luck!

[QUOTE=GuyNblueJeans]
glee – if you email “Coast To Coast am” and ask them if they might provide a cite for you on the UFO that’s going to be pulled up from Lake Michigan this summer, I’m sure they’ll help you in that regard. It was from listening to their show several months ago that I heard about it. Good Luck!
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Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I am puzzled that the most historic event in human history is being so little publicised.
I have to e-mail a TV program to ask about first contact? :confused: Why is the World’s media not beating down their door?
Perhaps the evidence that this is an alien craft is not very convincing?

[QUOTE=Kokopilau]
No, but I do suffer quite commonly from sleep paralysis.

I wake up, but can’t move. My head hurts, and there’s a buzzing or whooshing sound. The more I try to move my limbs, the more my head hurts. On occasion, I can see and feel entities. Classic abduction experience.

Except I have never once seen an “alien” (once I was freaked out by what turned out to be my own arm, once I saw my girlfriend at the time and felt her put a hand on my back and could feel the warmth of her hand through my shirt despite the fact that she was 50 miles away at the time, and once I saw a huge dark looming black-cloaked hooded figure that turned out to be my raincoat hanging on my door-hook). And none of these experiences has lasted longer than five minutes (I’ve checked the clock by my bed).

This is partly why I discount stories of alien abductions - I regularly get all the symptoms, but without the actual aliens to go with it.
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You pretty much took my answer.

[QUOTE=glee]
Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I am puzzled that the most historic event in human history is being so little publicised.
I have to e-mail a TV program to ask about first contact? :confused: Why is the World’s media not beating down their door?
Perhaps the evidence that this is an alien craft is not very convincing?
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I like the “Please don’t take this the wrong way” disclaimer. It’s like you actually are puzzled and aren’t being condescending or anything. Nice touch

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Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I am puzzled that the most historic event in human history is being so little publicised.
I have to e-mail a TV program to ask about first contact? :confused: Why is the World’s media not beating down their door?
Perhaps the evidence that this is an alien craft is not very convincing?
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I very much agree with you on this point. I can’t understand it either.

The time I heard them talking about it, it seemed like this one is the real deal. I recall a native American lady called the show and stated some things that added to the possibility that the thing under the water might be an actual UFO (though the details of her comments escape me at the moment).

My feeling is that if in fact it is a saucer from another world, there’ll be some mix up or something that’ll occur … and the authorities will tell us it was all a misunderstanding (like Roswell was).

On the other hand, what if, say, a week or two before the recovery team is about to get things under way, that the entire world’s attention is on it AND, sure as shit, they really do show a foreign space craft being hauled out of the water with dead Grays visible through the windows!!

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Sure. One night I saw three light extended objects shoot across the sky and turn suddenly, in a way that was surprising. I don’t know what they were. So not only were they unidentified flying objects, they were surprising ones. One person I’ve described the details to thought owls would be a good guess, but I think it’s surprising three owls would fly together in formation (any owl experts know?).
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Since I’m not an owl expert, I can’t directly address your question, but your post reminded me that owls have been postulated as an explanation for the luminescent phenomena variously known as Min Min Lights in Australia, Prairie Lights in the USA, the Will o’ the Wisp in Great Britain, etc.

A UFO experience? Of course! Why, I saw one hovering over Toronto’s new City Hall years ago…

(It turned out to be a seagull, which alighted and then pooped on my classmate’s bag.)

If you mean an encounter with an alien species, then no.