# Did you have to restore the SDMB from floppies? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 23, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438 "2008-12-23T21:37:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/1 "2008-12-23T21:37:14Z")
Or did you forget to pay the hosting fee for December? Which is it? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/2 "2008-12-23T21:41:24Z")
Wow, what a surprise. One of the board’s resident tumors immediately jumps the administration’s shit. Fucking crybaby. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/3 "2008-12-23T21:42:52Z")
Chillax dude, stuff breaks. ---
**Author:** ![mshar253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@mshar253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mshar253)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/4 "2008-12-23T21:45:20Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > Chillax dude, stuff breaks. Does it have to be on a weekly basis, though? ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/5 "2008-12-23T21:45:33Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Wow, what a surprise. One of the board’s resident tumors immediately jumps the administration’s shit. Fucking crybaby. And also a surprise: one of the board’s resident apologists comes into rescue the administration. No, you’re right. Systems go down all day all the time. It’s perfectly excusable. WHAT was I thinking? ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/6 "2008-12-23T21:50:04Z")
First time that has happened to me since the upgrade. It made the day a little longer at work, but otherwise, no biggie. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/7 "2008-12-23T21:51:14Z")
I’m sorry Mommy. I’ll never do it again. Please don’t make me go in the dark place anymore… ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/8 "2008-12-23T21:57:54Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > And also a surprise: one of the board’s resident apologists comes into rescue the administration. You’re a tool. Check Zotti’s “pit rules suspended” thread to see just what kind of an apologist I am. > [@](#): > > _No, you’re right. Systems go down all day all the time. It’s perfectly excusable. WHAT was I thinking?_ I’m in IT. I know systems and stability better than you. And you’re a moron. Suck my taint, you drooling turd. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/9 "2008-12-23T21:58:24Z")
I appreciated the break. Some of you mother fuckers work my damn nerves. ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/10 "2008-12-23T22:04:48Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > You’re a tool. Check Zotti’s “pit rules suspended” thread to see just what kind of an apologist I am. Nah. > [@](#): > > I’m in IT. I know systems and stability better than you. And you’re a moron. Hmm. So your stuff goes down for 8 hours at a time? Funny, in my data center, we have things called Service Level Agreements. We have to maintain 99.999% up time or we start paying clients back. But we always seem to make 100%. Oh forget it. Here’s language you might understand. I can’t print. Can you fix it? > [@](#): > > Suck my taint, you drooling turd. What’s a taint? Is that help desk lingo? ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/11 "2008-12-23T22:12:22Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > I’m sorry Mommy. I’ll never do it again. Please don’t make me go in the dark place anymore… But…but…they have cookies ---
**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/12 "2008-12-23T22:20:48Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > Hmm. So your stuff goes down for 8 hours at a time? Funny, in my data center, we have things called Service Level Agreements. We have to maintain 99.999% up time or we start paying clients back. But we always seem to make 100%. Funny, on the SDMB, there is no such expectation. I don’t recall any Service Level Agreement when I registered, nor do I recall any expectation of being paid back any part of the membership fee if a certain level is not maintained. Shut the fuck up and quit whining. ---
**Author:** ![mshar253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@mshar253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mshar253)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/13 "2008-12-23T22:26:12Z")
> [@atomicbadgerrace](#): > > Funny, on the SDMB, there is no such expectation. I don’t recall any Service Level Agreement when I registered, nor do I recall any expectation of being paid back any part of the membership fee if a certain level is not maintained. > > Shut the fuck up and quit whining. Are there “Service Level Agreements” in magazine subscriptions, to ensure that they actually send me all the magazines to which I’ve subscribed? Or is it perfectly reasonable if they miss a month here and there, and to call them on it would be “whining?” This wasn’t the end of the world for me, by any stretch of the imagination. But it’s ridiculous that Ed can say things like how he wants this to be profitable, and yet these problems happen _at least_ once a week, on some scale. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Beginning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@New\_Beginning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Beginning)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/14 "2008-12-23T22:28:03Z")
You guys are hysterical. ---
**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/15 "2008-12-23T22:29:30Z")
> [@mshar253](#): > > Are there “Service Level Agreements” in magazine subscriptions, to ensure that they actually send me all the magazines to which I’ve subscribed? Or is it perfectly reasonable if they miss a month here and there, and to call them on it would be “whining?” I imagine there are such things spelled out somewhere. I don’t subscribe to any magazines, so I can’t be more helpful there, but I can’t imagine there existing a subscription agreement where they don’t spell out their obligation. > [@](#): > > This wasn’t the end of the world for me, by any stretch of the imagination. But it’s ridiculous that Ed can say things like how he wants this to be profitable, and yet these problems happen _at least_ once a week, on some scale. That would seem to be Ed’s problem to deal with. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/16 "2008-12-23T22:31:05Z")
> [@mshar253](#): > > This wasn’t the end of the world for me, by any stretch of the imagination. But it’s ridiculous that Ed can say things like how he wants this to be profitable, and yet these problems happen _at least_ once a week, on some scale. Hang on, the SDMB is going down “at least” once a week? That’s funny, because I log in pretty much daily, and this is the first time I’ve seen the boards go down like that in months and months. They must be specifically timing the server crashes around my posting habits. Which is mighty good service, if you ask me. I didn’t even have to pay extra for it! ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/17 "2008-12-23T22:31:57Z")
[QUOTE=mshar253] This wasn’t the end of the world for me, by any stretch of the imagination. But it’s ridiculous that Ed can say things like how he wants this to be profitable, and yet these problems happen _at least_ once a week, on some scale. [/QUOTE] Once a week. At least. On some scale. Ohhhkaayyy. Glad you disdained exaggeration about the world ending for you. ---
**Author:** ![mshar253](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@mshar253](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mshar253)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/18 "2008-12-23T22:34:33Z")
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**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/19 "2008-12-23T22:41:27Z")
[QUOTE=mshar253] Are there “Service Level Agreements” in magazine subscriptions, to ensure that they actually send me all the magazines to which I’ve subscribed? Or is it perfectly reasonable if they miss a month here and there, and to call them on it would be “whining?” [/QUOTE] Not that it matters at all, but your question made me curious. I chose People magazine at random, and [their website](https://secure.customersvc.com/wes/servlet/Show?WESPAGE=am/Services/faq.jsp&MSRSMAG=PE) spells out what you can expect: [QUOTE=Damaged Issues] If this is an isolated event, you can report a damaged issue online by clicking here . Your subscription will be extended to make up for the damaged issue. If you would prefer to receive a replacement issue, please contact us by e-mail. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Late or Missed Issues] If none of these explanations apply, please click here to report the missed issue. Your subscription will be extended to make up for the missed issue. If you would prefer to receive a replacement issue, please contact us by e-mail. [/QUOTE] Similarly, I perused the SDMB [Registration Agreement](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=423183), and found no expection of service level posted. To me, that means I can expect the SDMB to be up anywhere from 0-100% of the time. In fact, even without written service level expectations, I note that when there’s a major board outage, it’s not uncommon for the administration to extend a subscriber’s expiration for the applicable amount of time. Or did you just want to quibble over your lost, what, 6 hours? ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/20 "2008-12-23T22:41:32Z")
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