# Did you have to restore the SDMB from floppies? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 23, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438 "2008-12-23T21:37:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/81 "2008-12-24T22:00:37Z")
> [@Jeff](#): > > That’s your honest assessment of your posts? Holy shit, but that’s hilarious. It was originally (months back). That didn’t work. So, I’m trying a new method. Fuck it. Go ahead dissenters, dissent. The board will continue breaking (slowness, database errors or just all-out outages) and soon, if you’re lucky, it won’t be here any more. It’ll break one last time and Ed Zotti will finally feel that it’s not worth the money to fix and keep running. I suppose I’ll find other things to worry about. No one here seems to give a shit, why should I? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/82 "2008-12-24T22:06:29Z")
Well, lookee onea Dudley’s recent threads: [Mods, how do you deal?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10187570&postcount=1) > [@](#): > > There is never a shortage of crybaby threads with people whining about something or other here: > … > > 1. The board’s performance sucks. Mods, do something! > > … > > 1. Blah, blah, fucking blah. > > … ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/83 "2008-12-24T22:09:11Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Well, lookee onea Dudley’s recent threads: [Mods, how do you deal?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10187570&postcount=1) That thread was meant to be totally sarcastic. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/84 "2008-12-24T22:09:24Z")
> [@Fish](#): > > More like: > > _Yawn_, Dudley’s complaining again? I wonder what other threads there are in the Pit. > > Seriously, man, you’ve got a reputation as a grade-A whiner. The only time I see your name is when you’re bitchin’ about somethin’. Don’t you have you have something to contribute? Why? Because he’s bitching about his area of expertise? You can see all my ball bag whining in the thread about 120$ for a Ford key. If you can’t bitch about what you know then what the fuck? I’ll bet **Dudley** has every slack jawed tard steak in his building bitching when they can’t get a screen. Face facts. A shit load off modern problems stem from not being able to do your job. Or better yet, trying to do it without the aid of computers. Kind of sounds like that chip key thing. WAH! WAH! ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/85 "2008-12-24T22:16:39Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > Yes, really. There isn’t a single point of failure in any part of my data center. This goes all the way from street power feeds to the presentation layer of a given application. Of course applications crash, power lines and fiber connections get cut, network routers fail; that’s why there’s redundancy throughout. > > Of course, you could just ask me, without the snark (since none was aimed at you), and I’d answer more extensively. But, instead you get brevity and an invitation to go fuck yourself. Refresh my memory - are you that guy who posted he wouldn’t hire a woman because she was too attractive, and a guy because he had large eyeglasses? ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/86 "2008-12-24T22:34:31Z")
> [@Omegaman](#): > > Why? Because he’s bitching about his area of expertise? No, because he doesn’t appear to serve any other purpose. He should just change his name to **Board Doesn’t Work**. > [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > I fail to see where your perception of me as a constant complainer has anything to do with the board’s technical problems. If you’re allowed to complain then so am I. The board would run better if you didn’t post so much about how it wasn’t running. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/87 "2008-12-24T22:38:03Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > It was originally (months back). That didn’t work. So, I’m trying a new method. > > Fuck it. Go ahead dissenters, dissent. The board will continue breaking (slowness, database errors or just all-out outages) and soon, if you’re lucky, it won’t be here any more. It’ll break one last time and Ed Zotti will finally feel that it’s not worth the money to fix and keep running. > > I suppose I’ll find other things to worry about. No one here seems to give a shit, why should I? If I’m lucky, it will break? How does that work itself out, logically speaking? It’s cute that you classify what you’re doing as dissent, as if your posts are ennobled in all their bitchiness as a result. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/88 "2008-12-24T22:41:15Z")
> [@Fish](#): > > No, because he doesn’t appear to serve any other purpose. He should just change his name to **Board Doesn’t Work**. > > If you’re allowed to complain then so am I. The board would run better if you didn’t post so much about how it wasn’t running. Well that’s the beauty of the whole board. Everybody can say pretty much whatever they want. ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/89 "2008-12-24T22:46:45Z")
> [@Omegaman](#): > > Well that’s the beauty of the whole board. Everybody can say pretty much whatever they want. Of course. Complaint is no guarantee of _change_, which appears to be **DudleyGarrett** ’s goal. I can’t see that working out for him, really. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/90 "2008-12-25T00:31:53Z")
[QUOTE=DudleyGarrett] Yes, really. There isn’t a single point of failure in any part of my data center. This goes all the way from street power feeds to the presentation layer of a given application. Of course applications crash, power lines and fiber connections get cut, network routers fail; that’s why there’s redundancy throughout. [/QUOTE] Sure, I’ve worked on and even helped build highly fault tolerant systems. While I doubt that your system NEVER fails, I can certainly believe that a mission critical system requires very high levels of up time. But the thing is, how much does it cost? In order to get all that fancy stuff you are talking about costs big dollars. You realize this, yes? I ask without snark as a lot of times my fellow IT guru’s don’t seem to grasp that all the shinny toys and cool stuff costs money…and lots of it. The SDMB is NOT a mission critical app and they don’t have a very large budget from what I understand. This isn’t Yahoo! or Google after all, nor is it transaction critical financial stuff either…it’s a message board that is run on a shoe string and that derives it’s operating funding through advertising and some user contributions. We ain’t talking about a couple million dollar a quarter operating budget here with a NOC and alternative facility waiting to come on stream if there is a failure. We probably aren’t talking about multi-vendor T3’s (or T1’s) coming into multiple points of presence using multiple LECs either. If you want all that stuff you should go on Wiki’s or Googles message boards…or Yahoo! or (shudder) AOL. This is the small time here…and I rather like it like that, personally. Anyway, Merry X-Moose too all and too all a good night. Time for an(other) scotch and a nice cigar I’m thinking… -XT ---
**Author:** ![ReuvenB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@ReuvenB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReuvenB)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/91 "2008-12-25T00:34:25Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > Actually, I’m hoping, by complaining (and not every 10 minutes like you say – only when there are issues), that this place will actually become more stable. You know, I’m hoping that Ed Zotti reads the negative feedback he receives from his customers and makes the appropriate changes. > > As it stands now, the board has a lot of problems, and the apologists (like yourself) will just keep it that way. Unfortunately, you’re a very loud minority. > > I find it very odd that most of you are taking my complaints toward the board’s performance so personally. No, I’m afraid I’m in the majority of people here, who think you’re a sad, pathetic loser who has nothing better to do than bitch about the board’s performance. Just shut up and crawl back to your cave. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/92 "2008-12-25T05:29:09Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > Well, that’s pretty disgusting. Mistaken use of pronoun. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/93 "2008-12-25T05:35:34Z")
> [@Darth\_Nader](#): > > PR#6 Y’know, I thought I was the resident User of Crappy Old Computers here, and I have used (too) many a machine that read cassette tapes, but I am both pleased that I never used an Apple with a tape drive, and sad that, despite that, I recognized the command. Now I need an original IBM PC so I can try the cassette commands with it. ☹ Though it might not be THAT much more unpleasant that a 5150 with a single floppy. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/94 "2008-12-25T05:48:25Z")
ETA too late: Oh, and are some of you TOTAL PUSSIES? I grow sick of complaints about the boards because I know how much work goes into keeping it running. Especially since none of you assholes are still paying for it. Enjoy the times that it works well (almost all of them), wish you’d paid for a hotter connection for some of them, and live the fuck with the FEW times it sucks these days. Were you fucking HERE two years ago? Five? EIGHT? Then shut the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/95 "2008-12-25T06:41:15Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > ETA too late: Oh, and are some of you TOTAL PUSSIES? I grow sick of complaints about the boards because I know how much work goes into keeping it running. Especially since none of you assholes are still paying for it. Enjoy the times that it works well (almost all of them), wish you’d paid for a hotter connection for some of them, and live the fuck with the FEW times it sucks these days. Were you fucking HERE two years ago? Five? EIGHT? Then shut the fuck up. But- do you have a view? ---
**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/96 "2008-12-25T08:05:12Z")
Dearest **dropzone** , There’s a spider in my shower, could you spare a moment and come squish it for me? Your resident pussy, **bbs2k** ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/97 "2008-12-25T16:05:23Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > I’m sorry Mommy. I’ll never do it again. Please don’t make me go in the dark place anymore… Hamlet? Hamlet Hampster? Is that you? ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/98 "2008-12-26T03:01:46Z")
> [@Astroboy14](#): > > My first computer! :eek: > > (…and I didn’t have a tape drive, so I had to re-type whatever basic program I had written every time I turned the computer off and then back on! Them was the days!) I bet your typing accuracy was awesome. I took typing in HS, and had a fairly high accuracy in my class. However, what really, really helped me was typing in programs for my TI994/A. We did have a tape drive, as it happens…a cassette recorder that ran on batteries. We quickly learned that if the batteries were running out of juice, it was not good to record or play from that recorder. Fortunately, that computer also used cartridges, which were simple. I loved that computer. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/99 "2008-12-26T06:45:00Z")
Typing class and the support/resources of scholastic athletics were the only things worth my time in high school. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438/100 "2008-12-26T19:43:23Z")
If I ran such a top notch place such as Dudly Do Right does, I would put out that info so all could come and actually see it in action and him in action. Why hide behind screen names when you are the top of the chain and the best at what you do? I would spread the word to PROVE I was what I say I am and do what I say I do… This place is just like real life. I see it all the time when I’m out and about… I am so proud that so many are willing to share their time and $$$ to help me with getting to the place they so want me to be… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-have-to-restore-the-sdmb-from-floppies/478438.md?page=6)