# Did you know that Firefly is awesome? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 1, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324 "2010-01-01T20:37:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Across](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Across](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Across)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/21 "2010-01-02T10:38:41Z")
> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#): > > It’s alright but it’s not fantastic…and I seen every episode/the movie twice. People on this board give it more love than it deserves. I agree (with the first bit - haven’t done enough research to know what the general opinion on the boards is). However, I think part of the reason people love it is because it was a bright star that burned only briefly. It didn’t have time to get boring, or bad, so it never disappointed us. Fans can invest it with whatever future they envisioned for it. It’s full potential was never realised, so that potential seems limitless. If it had run a full season or more, I believe the fan response would be very different. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/22 "2010-01-02T11:04:08Z")
I do know it’s not anywhere near as awesome as so many people seem to think it is. Just like everything else Joss Whedon makes. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/23 "2010-01-02T11:49:02Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > I do know it’s not anywhere near as awesome as so many people seem to think it is. > > Just like everything else Joss Whedon makes. You don’t \*know \*that, it’s an opinion. And my opinion is that your opinion is laughably wrong. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![FalconFinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@FalconFinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FalconFinder)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/24 "2010-01-02T15:47:50Z")
Firefly was the best series – period. I am not a blind Joss Whedon fan. In fact, I’ve only ever liked Firefly/Serenity and Dr Horrible. Never got into the vampire stuff. The characters and how they related to each other, the humor, the stories – all fantastic. It’s been years and I still mourn it’s loss on the airwaves. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/25 "2010-01-02T16:12:57Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > I do know it’s not anywhere near as awesome as so many people seem to think it is. > > Just like everything else Joss Whedon makes. Darn. \*:Kick: :Schwooop!:\* 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Short\_Guy\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9adbd/32.png) [@Short\_Guy\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Short_Guy_1)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/26 "2010-01-02T16:31:37Z")
We watched them on DVD a year or so back. At the end of _Our Mrs Reynolds_ I said to my girlfriend: “That was one of the best things ever.” So yeah, it’s okay. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/27 "2010-01-02T22:33:36Z")
I was just thinking that we were overdue for another set of “Firefly is awesome” threads. I love that show. I enjoyed BSG for the first couple of seasons, but in my opinion it took a sharp nosedive when they settled on New Caprica and it never recovered. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/28 "2010-01-02T22:56:55Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > I have to admit that I’ve never seen it. Should I? Battlestar Gallactica and Cowboy Bebop are better shows. Firefly is soft entertainment that appeals to the cult crowd. It’s thoroughly enjoyable, but it wouldn’t be as popular as it is, if it had been more popular. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/29 "2010-01-03T07:20:50Z")
What we have here is the makin’s of real shootout. I love Doctor Horrible, Firefly and BSG, but they are completely different shows. I have never seen Buffy/Angel or Cowboy Bebop, so I can’t comment on them. When the pie-throwing war starts, can I be on multiple sides? ---
**Author:** ![mage-girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mage-girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mage-girl)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/30 "2010-01-03T18:08:44Z")
Just a warning: a friend of mine who likes Firefly did not enjoy the Serenity movie. SPOILER: people die. People she liked. So just be prepared. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/31 "2010-01-03T18:30:01Z")
_Firefly_ and _BSG_ are massively different shows. The only thing they have in common is spaceships. Genre-wise, this isn’t comparing _Law and Order_ with _Law and Order: Criminal Intent_; it’s comparing _Law and Order_ with _The Commish_. A stretch, but it’s almost like asking somebody if they prefer _LA Law_ or _Night Court_. ---
**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/32 "2010-01-03T19:01:38Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Battlestar Gallactica and Cowboy Bebop are better shows. Firefly is soft entertainment that appeals to the cult crowd. It’s thoroughly enjoyable, but it wouldn’t be as popular as it is, if it had been more popular. Yep. It’s only good if it’s “hard.” It’s only “hard” if Sage Rat likes it. Because he’s a hard dude. Like, fuckin’ granite. :rolleyes: Also, a BSG and Cowboy Bebop fan dissing Firefly for being “cult”? There’s a saying coming to my mind… can’t really remember exactly what it is. Something about a pot. And a kettle? Something like that. (Incidentally, I love both Firefly and BSG. It’s possible to enjoy a show without feeling like you need to shit all over another.) ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/33 "2010-01-03T19:12:02Z")
> [@Gorgon\_Heap](#): > > _Firefly_ and _BSG_ are massively different shows. The only thing they have in common is spaceships. > > Genre-wise, this isn’t comparing _Law and Order_ with _Law and Order: Criminal Intent_; it’s comparing _Law and Order_ with _The Commish_. > > A stretch, but it’s almost like asking somebody if they prefer _LA Law_ or _Night Court_. True, but Firefly is more like Night Court. It’s soft, lighthearted entertainment. Calling a puff piece “must-see” goes against social norms. Usually people call something a must see if it is technically or thematically impressive, not just because it’s decently enjoyable and overlooked. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/34 "2010-01-03T22:05:48Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > True, but Firefly is more like Night Court. It’s soft, lighthearted entertainment. Calling a puff piece “must-see” goes against social norms. Usually people call something a must see if it is technically or thematically impressive, not just because it’s decently enjoyable and overlooked. I completely disagree with that. As a hard science fiction fan, Firefly comes far closer to the works of Heinlein, Asimov, Niven, or other hard SF writers than any TV series ever has. I think that’s part of its appeal - it’s real SF, and not just TV space opera. Its universe is more consistent and more plausible, its characters are more complex and better developed, and each episode was plotted better. Effort was taken to make sure the stories stayed consistent with the nature of the universe it was set in and within the motivations and personalities of the characters. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/35 "2010-01-03T23:07:10Z")
> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#): > > People on this board give it more love than it deserves. That’s just a weird thing to say. Do you imagine they’re just wrong about how much they themselves like it? ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/36 "2010-01-04T00:55:37Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > That’s just a weird thing to say. Do you imagine they’re just wrong about how much they themselves like it? I suspect what he’s trying to say is more like “They love it more than I do.” ETA: Or, possibly, “They love it more than I imagine I ever could.” ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/37 "2010-01-04T02:19:12Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > That’s just a weird thing to say. Do you imagine they’re just wrong about how much they themselves like it? I think the point is that many people here love it a lot more than people did in general. A whole lot more. ---
**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/38 "2010-01-04T05:28:46Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > I think the point is that many people here love it a lot more than people did in general. A whole lot more. If he meant that, he would’ve said, “People on this board give it more love than the general audience did.” ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/39 "2010-01-04T05:35:44Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > True, but Firefly is more like Night Court. It’s soft, lighthearted entertainment. I don’t recall Bull ever being eaten alive by berserk madmen… ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324/40 "2010-01-04T06:10:07Z")
The words "rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing " \*automatically \*disqualify any text from being “soft, lighthearted entertainment”, IMO. And \*Firefly \*is oodles more “hard” SF than \*BSG \*. No FTL, for one thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-you-know-that-firefly-is-awesome/523324.md?page=3)