# Didn't your mother teach you not to say "fucking" in a restaurant?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 29, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414 "2011-11-29T03:34:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/1 "2011-11-29T03:34:04Z")

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Not a dive, not top of the line either. $15-20 entrees. A quiet place, not even music, just the ambience of people talking and eating.

Three sets of elderly couples, me, and three bankers whose loud conversation could clearly be heard in every corner of the place. Well, that’s OK, it’s not that interesting a conversation, I can mostly tune it out. What I couldn’t tune out was the adjective “fucking” in every other sentence from one of them.

I’ve certainly used the word before, and will certainly use it again, but barring the waiter dropping my entree in my lap, I won’t use it in a nice place, and I won’t use it around people that might be offended by it. There’s a time and a place, you know?

There’s a reason “they won’t make [you] a fucking manager”, and maybe someday you’ll figure out that they don’t trust you to behave yourself in public. Fucking asshole.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/2 "2011-11-29T03:47:36Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Not a dive, not top of the line either. $15-20 entrees. A quiet place, not even music, just the ambience of people talking and eating.
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> Three sets of elderly couples, me, and three bankers whose loud conversation could clearly be heard in every corner of the place. Well, that’s OK, it’s not that interesting a conversation, I can mostly tune it out. What I couldn’t tune out was the adjective “fucking” in every other sentence from one of them.
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> I’ve certainly used the word before, and will certainly use it again, but barring the waiter dropping my entree in my lap, I won’t use it in a nice place, and I won’t use it around people that might be offended by it. There’s a time and a place, you know?
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> There’s a reason “they won’t make [you] a fucking manager”, and maybe someday you’ll figure out that they don’t trust you to behave yourself in public. Fucking asshole.

Based on previous experience, I’m going to guess that the banker in question had had too much to drink, either with his meal or at the bar beforehand. I have found that people who speak in a professional manner at work can really let it fly when their tongues are loosened by alcohol.

Doesn’t excuse his behavior at all, but might explain it.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/3 "2011-11-29T03:50:43Z")

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Maybe he doesn’t want to be a fucking manager. In a place with $15 - $20 entrees, the fucking tips for a fucking waiter should be fucking awesome.

Anyway, context would matter: “The veal tonight is fucking awesome” sounds like a great recommendation. “Here’s your fucking martini?” Not so much.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/4 "2011-11-29T03:51:51Z")

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For fuck’s sake, must you fucking quote the entire fucking OP in the first fucking response?  
Fuck!

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/5 "2011-11-29T03:52:48Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> “The veal tonight is fucking awesome” sounds like a great recommendation.

🙂 In fact, the veal was fucking awesome. Much better than I expected for the price.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/6 "2011-11-29T04:01:06Z")

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Oops, sorry, I skimmed the fucking OP.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/7 "2011-11-29T04:02:29Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> For fuck’s sake, must you fucking quote the entire fucking OP in the first fucking response?  
> Fuck!

Well, you’ve certainly demonstrated the diversity of the word.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/8 "2011-11-29T04:15:58Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Well, you’ve certainly demonstrated the diversity of the word.

The fuck he did. The fucker missed the noun.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/9 "2011-11-29T04:32:48Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> The fuck he did. The fucker missed the noun.

As well as the fucking verb itself (as opposed to the fucking present participle). Unless he was just fucking with us.

ETA: That seven-letter combination now looks completely weird and meaningless. Why do constantly repeated words fucking do that?

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/10 "2011-11-29T04:34:57Z")

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Sorry, I though what she said was to not fuck in restaurants.

My bad.

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**Author:** ![Chipacabra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@Chipacabra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chipacabra)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/11 "2011-11-29T04:45:08Z")

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No, that’s still fine. Carry on.

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**Author:** ![SeaCanary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@SeaCanary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaCanary)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/12 "2011-11-29T05:19:43Z")

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There’s a [song](http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/song-midis/F-Word_%28A_Chat_With_Your_Mother%29.htm) whose chorus goes…

We sit down to have a chat,  
It’s F word this and F word that,  
I can’t control how you young people,  
Talk to one another,  
But I don’t want to hear you use,  
The F word with your mother!

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/13 "2011-11-29T06:45:03Z")

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> [@Chipacabra](#):
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> No, that’s still fine. Carry on.

Except they’ll probably never let you back in that restaurant again. 😃

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/14 "2011-11-29T06:50:44Z")

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> [@CanvasShoes](#):
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> Except they’ll probably never let you back in that restaurant again. 😃

Unless it’s a Fucking Restaurant.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/15 "2011-11-29T07:04:45Z")

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I’d like the Fu King fried rice please

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/16 "2011-11-29T07:40:34Z")

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> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> Unless it’s a Fucking Restaurant.

Snerk…

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/17 "2011-11-29T07:59:21Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Three sets of elderly couples, me, and three bankers **whose loud conversation could clearly be heard in every corner of the place**.

Emphasis mine.

There’s your problem right there - it’s not the language they were using, it’s the fact that they were speaking loud enough for everyone to hear them. I don’t care if the party sitting next to me is taking turns reciting from Samuel Delaney’s _Hogg_, so long as they keep the volume down.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/18 "2011-11-29T12:08:27Z")

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Yeah, I’ve noticed the quality of the place doesn’t necessarily matter. I was having a drink in the bar area of a nice Michelin-starred place here in Chicago just a few weeks ago (not going there on my dime, which is even better), waiting for the rest of my party, when I realized that the gentleman next to me was “regaling” his companion with explicit details of exactly what excisions and other things his dermatologist had done to him. Ew.

Then again, sometimes it’s acoustics - though in your case, they surely should have become aware that they were the only source of noise in the place. Just a few nights ago, my husband and I were trying to have a nice dinner, and it felt like we were in on the same conversation as the couple at the table next to us. It didn’t help that they were naturally loud, but the acoustics in that place aren’t the best in certain spots, especially the corner we were stuck in. At least they left within about 15 minutes and that table didn’t get filled during the rest of our dinner.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/19 "2011-11-29T14:08:25Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> “The veal tonight is fucking awesome”

“So is the liver!”  
_- Alexander Portnoy_

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/didnt-your-mother-teach-you-not-to-say-fucking-in-a-restaurant/604414/20 "2011-11-29T14:23:04Z")

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> [@Enola\_Gay](#):
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> Unless it’s a Fucking Restaurant.

Or a vietnamese place called The Pho King.

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