# Die, Balck& Decker!
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [April 19, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655 "2009-04-19T21:19:04Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/1 "2009-04-19T21:19:04Z")
I just threw out our 3rd B&D toaster oven-the thermostatic control failed, and it turned ny cheesesteak sandwich into a lump of charcoal! I don’t get it-B&D used to make excellent kitchen appliances (till they moved everything to China). I still have a USA-made dustbuster that works great ( 10 years old). As I say, their quality has gone to shite…and the funny thing, this one that just failed was their top-rated model.
We bought a replacement at TARGET today-its another no-namo brand…although they reviews are pretty good. I gues the Chinese make stuff real cheap-so cheap that:
(!) it breaks within a year
(2) it isn’t worth fixing.
But now, there isn’t a single American-made toaster oven left (I could have bought an Italian-made DeLonghi-but they aren’t too good either).☹
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### Author:  [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/2 "2009-04-19T21:35:32Z")
Never heard of that brand.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/3 "2009-04-19T21:44:28Z")
> [@sailor](#):
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> Never heard of that brand.
**ralph124c** ’s keyboard was made in China.
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### Author:  [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/4 "2009-04-19T21:45:16Z")
If you visit the Black and Decker website, you’ll see [this](http://www.bdk.com/):
> [@](#):
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> Black & Decker is a global manufacturer and marketer of quality power tools and accessories, hardware and home improvement products, and technology based fastening systems.
Not a word about toaster oven excellence in there, is there?
I’d be surprised if they didn’t [outsource](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outsourcing) crap like that in order to mine their reputation for a little more short term profit. Gotta make the stock holders happy don’tcha know.
I’m certain the free market will sort out your difficulties in the medium to long term.
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### Author:  [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/5 "2009-04-19T21:49:48Z")
I didn’t balck at misreading the OP either, but I thought that “3rd B&D” was an old edition of a sadomasochism RPG.
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### Author:  [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/6 "2009-04-19T21:55:17Z")
> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I didn’t balck at misreading the OP either, but I thought that “3rd B&D” was an old edition of a sadomasochism RPG.
What did you pick for your 4th level Dominatrix feat ? I thought about taking High Heeled Ball Stomping, but Cherry Red Ballgag synergizes well with German Horsewhipping…
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### Author:  [@Dog80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog80)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/7 "2009-04-19T22:10:27Z")
> [@runner pat](#):
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> **ralph124c** ’s keyboard was made in China.
I’ve always wondered if ralph124c is really his desired username rather than something he mistyped during the sign-up process for the SMDB.
No offense mate! 😛
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### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/8 "2009-04-19T22:11:38Z")
> [@ralph124c](#):
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> 3rd B&D
Is that the edition where they bring in the D20 rules?
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### Author:  [@Jester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jester)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/9 "2009-04-19T22:23:23Z")
Balck and decker? But I hardly even know her!
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### Author:  [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/10 "2009-04-19T22:24:52Z")
> [@Dog80](#):
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> I’ve always wondered if ralph124c is really his desired username rather than something he mistyped during the sign-up process for the SMDB.
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> No offense mate! 😛
I suppose Dog1-79 were taken?
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### Author:  [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/11 "2009-04-19T22:53:17Z")
> [@ralph124c](#):
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> it turned ny cheesesteak sandwich into a lump of charcoal!
NOOOOOOOOO!!!
I want 'em dead. I want the stockholders dead. I want the factory burned to the ground so I can go there in the middle of the night and piss on the ashes.
Little too much De Niro?
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### Author:  [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/12 "2009-04-19T23:06:49Z")
> [@runner pat](#):
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> **ralph124c** ’s keyboard was made in China.
As you know, so was the vending machine from which he was born.
:eek:
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### Author:  [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/13 "2009-04-19T23:30:14Z")
> [@ralph124c](#):
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> it turned ny cheesesteak sandwich into a lump of charcoal!
Must…resist…
I BURNING YOUR CHEESESTEAK!!!
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/14 "2009-04-19T23:33:47Z")
> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Must…resist…
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> I BURNING YOUR CHEESESTEAK!!!
**Dog80** should be the one to post this.
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### Author:  [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/15 "2009-04-20T00:02:20Z")
Is 124c somehow mistyped for Wiggum?
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### Author:  [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/16 "2009-04-20T00:06:56Z")
> [@ralph124c](#):
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> … it turned ny cheesesteak sandwich into a lump of charcoal!
It’s just like popping popcorn in the microwave: you’re not supposed to set it for half an hour and go fall asleep on the sofa.
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### Author:  [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/17 "2009-04-20T01:37:46Z")
I had the same problems with my Rolez watch, the Mokia cell phone, that Rolls Joyce I had in the '90’s, and don’t even get me started about the money I lost when I invested with Warren Buffay.
It’s pretty bad out there when you can’t trust the major brad names.
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### Author:  [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2009, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/18 "2009-04-20T01:44:10Z")
Oh, come now. Ralph can tell a real Panaphonics when he sees one.
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### Author:  [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/19 "2009-04-20T01:48:48Z")
It’s quality like this why our grandparents unplugged their appliances when not in use. They didn’t want the house to burn down. Coincidentally or not Black and Decker was around when they worried about this too.
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### Author:  [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-balck-decker/493655/20 "2009-04-20T01:49:18Z")
I used to have a Balk & Deckard toaster oven–it kept turning my replicants into lumps of charcoal, but only after hesitating first.
> [@Dog80](#):
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> I’ve always wondered if ralph124c is really his desired username rather than something he mistyped during the sign-up process for the SMDB.
Just in case you’re serious about this question, it’s a reference to a classic science fiction novel.
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