# Die, Dawn, die!  (Buffy -related with spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 31, 2001, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-dawn-die-buffy-related-with-spoilers/90705 "2001-10-31T14:50:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2001, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-dawn-die-buffy-related-with-spoilers/90705/41 "2001-11-07T17:45:40Z")

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It will be interesting to see the villain that Willow makes.Hopefully the Slayerettes will teach Dawn something useful fastfastfast, because i am getiing tired of her.  
Maybe she can learn witchcraft with Tara, and Giles can teach her ancient languages. Something. Anything.

What is up with Anya?! A former vengeance demon, for chrissakes!!I saw her at least being assertive, bring back Anya’s attitude!

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**Author:** ![Koffing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@Koffing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koffing)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2001, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-dawn-die-buffy-related-with-spoilers/90705/42 "2001-11-07T18:27:36Z")

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Dawn was created from Buffy (Summers blood, right?). Well, I’m waiting for her to manifest Slayer powers of some sort. They could teach her to fight, and she’d get the attention that she so obviously craves.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-dawn-die-buffy-related-with-spoilers/90705/43 "2001-11-08T02:37:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Otto \*  
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> > 1. She went up against Glory without a plan - Buffy had to save her.
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> Agree with all of the above except this. First, I disagree that her battle with Glory was a sign of impending darknbess. Second, she did have a plan, she just seriously underestimated Glory’s strength (or seriously overestimated her own, or both). She went in with a well-thought-out series of spells and fired them off. Glory was even impressed by her attack. Yes, Buffy did have to save her, but not before Willow inflicted some heavy damage and still had enough to stop Glory from pursuing them. \*\*

Good point, Otto. I got carried away. Notice that Tara’s done some selfish magic too that backfired on her friends, but she reacted differently than Willow - Tara got more careful about the magic, while Willow hasn’t learned that lesson yet.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-dawn-die-buffy-related-with-spoilers/90705/44 "2001-11-08T09:27:04Z")

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Well, the fight itself might not have been a sign of impending darkness, but I think that bit before that, where she pulled out a big-ass tome with “Darkest Magic” embossed in big gothic letters on the cover… Kinda a red-flag moment.

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