# Die Hard 5 Trailer **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 4, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732 "2012-10-04T19:22:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/1 "2012-10-04T19:22:37Z")
And if you didn’t know this was coming…no, I’m not kidding. I liked Die Hard 4, so I’m actually looking forward to this quite a bit. It’s just a teaser trailer, but it looks cool. [A Good Day to Die Hard](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2phowlNtP1o) Yes, that’s the title. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/2 "2012-10-04T19:31:10Z")
If it’s another neutered PG 13 outing, they can go yipee ki a motherfuck themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/3 "2012-10-04T19:44:28Z")
Well, the series is more aptly named than Final Fantasy, at least. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/4 "2012-10-04T19:52:00Z")
_Die Hard_ was outstanding, _Die Harder_ was ok, D_ie Hard with a Vengeance_ or whatever it was called fellated, so I predict that this will suck really, really badly. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/5 "2012-10-04T20:02:58Z")
The first one was excellent, the second one was crappy, the third one was good, the fourth one was crappy. So if the trend continues (odd films are good but monotone decreasing in quality, even films are crappy), the fifth one should be okay. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/6 "2012-10-04T20:07:00Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > The first one was excellent, the second one was crappy, the third one was good, the fourth one was crappy. So if the trend continues (odd films are good but monotone decreasing in quality, even films are crappy), the fifth one should be okay. I hope your theory proves out rather than mine. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/7 "2012-10-04T20:28:06Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > The first one was excellent, the second one was crappy, the third one was good, the fourth one was crappy. So if the trend continues (odd films are good but monotone decreasing in quality, even films are crappy), the fifth one should be okay. Even-numbered Star Treks and odd-numbered Die Hards. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/8 "2012-10-04T20:29:45Z")
Yeah, I’d rank them: 1. Die Hard 1 2. Die Hard 3 3. Die Hard 2 4. The Bart The Sorry, I didn’t see #4. So I’m just guessing there. ---
**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/9 "2012-10-04T20:31:48Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I hope your theory proves out rather than mine. > 🙂 A hot Russian babe has gotta be worth a look-see…I’m just sayin’…😛 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/10 "2012-10-04T20:42:53Z")
I don’t thing anything will beat “Hi, Honey.” and the Xmas Seals. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/11 "2012-10-04T20:49:00Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > If it’s another neutered PG 13 outing, they can go yipee ki a motherfuck themselves. It had an R-rated cut and the DVD has the unrated version, which is the R-rated cut. I hope this time, they just skip the DVD thing and put the R-rated thing in the theater. I’d rank them: 1. Die Hard 1 - just a great movie 2. Die Hard 4 - Yes, I liked it that much. 3. Die Hard 3 - I do love this movie, almost tied with 4. 4. Die Hard 2 - I don’t like this one and always skip it. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/12 "2012-10-04T21:36:08Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > 1. Die Hard 1 - just a great movie > > 2. Die Hard 4 - Yes, I liked it that much. > > 3. Die Hard 3 - I do love this movie, almost tied with 4. > > 4. Die Hard 2 - I don’t like this one and always skip it. I agree with this ranking. #2 was the only real stinker (no pun intended). ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/13 "2012-10-04T21:37:18Z")
There is only one _Die Hard_. I refuse to acknowledge any but the original. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/14 "2012-10-04T23:34:08Z")
> [@Rhiannon8404](#): > > There is only one _Die Hard_. I refuse to acknowledge any but the original. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/15 "2012-10-05T01:25:26Z")
exactly, because aleksandr gudunov is dead. sigh… ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/16 "2012-10-05T01:32:50Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > The first one was excellent, the second one was crappy, the third one was good, the fourth one was crappy. So if the trend continues (odd films are good but monotone decreasing in quality, even films are crappy), the fifth one should be okay. By that logic, the bad guy should be another Gruber brother. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/17 "2012-10-05T02:01:08Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > exactly, because aleksandr gudunov is dead. sigh… Good riddance. 🙂 Why do you guys like the third one? I thought it was just bad comedy. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/18 "2012-10-05T02:11:47Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > It had an R-rated cut and the DVD has the unrated version, which is the R-rated cut. > > I hope this time, they just skip the DVD thing and put the R-rated thing in the theater. I don’t accept that. It’s a giant cop-out, and I think it’s a trend that is ruining movies for adults. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/19 "2012-10-05T02:18:14Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > I don’t accept that. It’s a giant cop-out, and I think it’s a trend that is ruining movies for adults. Why don’t you accept it? I agree about most of your points, but why don’t you accept the R-rated DVD version? ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732/20 "2012-10-05T03:08:44Z")
It’s a half measure, and I’m a die-hard (ahem) purist. The silver screen is canon. I reject the notion that a director can really shoot two movies at once. Action movies that comfortably embrace their R rating from the outset have an entirely different feel than flicks with the safety net of PG-13. It is not simply a matter of a DVD version where some of the gunshots have splatter and swearing isn’t cut out by an explosion. A film with a solid R feel is entirely capable of surprising me; I can’t guess what’s next. I never dreamed I’d see a bad guy dispatched with an icicle through the eye. I could have never anticipated it could get that dark. R can get pretty fucked up. Like Ving Rhames with a ball gag in his mouth fucked up. There’s a pervasive sterility safety-net feeling in a PG 13 shoot. I know all the avenues the narrative can’t go down. Like a child, I’m practically assured from the outset that the children will escape the gingerbread house mentally and physically whole. So I reject that a PG 13 shoot - which is a thoroughly compromised creation (no matter how much the actor and director swear it’s as full-on as everything else) can somehow have a 10% solution of rated R material sprinkled over it resulting in a wholly different version. If you set out to bake a vanilla cake, no amount of chocolate sprinkles on the leftovers is going to convince me you meant to make chocolate all along. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-hard-5-trailer/636732.md?page=2)