# Die, you fucking hypocrites at MTV, die! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 27, 2000, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111 "2000-07-27T22:05:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sweet\_Lotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sweet\_Lotus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Lotus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2000, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/1 "2000-07-27T22:05:55Z")
MTV, in their infinite idiocy, have decided to censor Madonna’s _Music_ video. This is because, as a spoof on gangsta rap (a la Mase, Puffy et al), it portrays M going to a strip club where there are scantily clad women gyrating. So far, so good, just the sort of thing MTV wants to see! However, because some of the dancer’s heads are not in the shot and you cannot see their faces, MTV has decided that the shots are - gasp - exploitative of women! Oh no! Okay, so let’s think back a little… hmmm… do you remember the faces of all those women in the video for _Thong Song_? How about in _Wiggle It_, by Two in a Room? _Fantastic Voyage_, by Coolio? I have nothing against the above videos, but if they can show those, why not _Music_? And what makes MTV so concerned about exploitation all of a sudden? Were they thinking about that when they aired the video for _(Hit me)Baby One More Time_? Or Mariah’s _Heartbreaker_ Remix? Or how about all of Eminem’s misogynistic crap? Oh yeah, right. I forgot. Exploitation is okay, as long as the men and the producers and the Big Daddies are in control. Put the control in the hands of a woman, and it **must** be stopped! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2000, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/2 "2000-07-27T22:09:08Z")
Wait. You want MTV to be consistent? What a moron. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2000, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/3 "2000-07-27T22:10:23Z")
Lotus, you seem intelligent and discerning… What the fuck are you doing watching MTV? ---
**Author:** ![Sweet\_Lotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sweet\_Lotus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Lotus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2000, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/4 "2000-07-27T22:16:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tiggeril \* > **Lotus, you seem intelligent and discerning…** Thank you very much. > [@](#): > > \*\*What the fuck are you doing watching MTV? \*\* Firstly, I don’t watch MTV. I watch MuchMusic. I’m a choreographer and I like to get inspiration. I turn the sound off on BSB videos and try to get new ideas, if you must know. And secondly, I like Madonna. That would be my main reason for watching MTV this summer, while I am in the States on vacation. She has a new CD coming out in the fall and all the promotion is happening from August 2 until September. ---
**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2000, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/5 "2000-07-27T22:20:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sweet\_Lotus \* > > **I watch MuchMusic.** I’ve never heard of this… what is it? > [@](#): > > **I’m a choreographer and I like to get inspiration. I turn the sound off on BSB videos and try to get new ideas** I can respect that… (as long as you’re not one of those brainless screaming TRL-junkies) ::shudder:: > [@](#): > > **And secondly, I like Madonna.** This I can most definitely respect. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sweet\_Lotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sweet\_Lotus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Lotus)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2000, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/6 "2000-07-27T22:32:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tiggeril \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Sweet\_Lotus \* > > > > **I watch MuchMusic.** > > I’ve never heard of this… what is it? > > It’s the music channel in Canada that actually plays - _gasp!_ music! Uninterrupted music videos. No shows like TRL or Real World or Road Rules. They even have an “indie spotlight”, where indie bands can take a camcorder, make a vid, and get national exposure. Very grassroots. > > > [@](#): > > > > **And secondly, I like Madonna.** > > This I can most definitely respect. ;)\*\* In that case, I can come out of the closet to you: I _loooove_ Madonna (see my sig, which is Madonna-related). In fact, I met my true love at a Madonna messageboard on the Net. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Myrr21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Myrr21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrr21)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2000, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/7 "2000-07-27T22:33:42Z")
MTV make me wanna smoke crack. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/8 "2000-07-28T03:45:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sweet\_Lotus \* > And secondly, I like Madonna. Oh, so _that_ explains it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![speakeasy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@speakeasy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/speakeasy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/9 "2000-07-28T06:05:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Exploitation is okay, as long as the men and the producers and the Big Daddyies are in control. Put the control in the hands of a woman, and it must be stopped! Well, duh! What would women know about proper exploitation? I don’t want to watch dirty videos by a woman trying to guess what a man wants to see. Only a horny male who follows his dick wherever it leads him can get it right. > [@](#): > > I loooove Madonna… Gack. ---
**Author:** ![Sweet\_Lotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sweet\_Lotus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Lotus)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/10 "2000-07-28T15:39:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by speakeasy \* > Well, duh! What would women know about proper exploitation? I don’t want to watch dirty videos by a woman trying to guess what a man wants to see. Only a horny male who follows his dick wherever it leads him can get it right. Thank you. > [@](#): > > Gack. Not so much thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2000, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/11 "2000-07-30T00:12:49Z")
I, for one, think it’s about time people everywhere stood up for the right of women to gyrate semi-nude on television all they want! 😃 And MuchMusic ROCKS! I used to have a night job that was only about 2% work, There was satellite TV there, and I kept it on MuchMusic the whole time. It kicked MTV’s ASS! ---
**Author:** ![Sweet\_Lotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sweet\_Lotus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Lotus)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2000, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/12 "2000-07-30T00:19:22Z")
Right on, drainthelizard! Of course MuchMusic is better. It’s not as commercial as MTV. ---
**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2000, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/13 "2000-07-30T00:50:22Z")
Only thing good from MTV was Beavis and Butthead (heh heh-heh). The editing of the videos they show are very bad. The videos they do show are what The Dinosaurs refer to as “Macho Ididot Rock”. I don’t object to rock, but I don’t want to see videos that cater to short attention spans. ---
**Author:** ![Myrr21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Myrr21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrr21)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2000, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/14 "2000-07-30T01:15:45Z")
MTV does have some quality television–Celebrity Deathmatch. That, and one other show–who’s name I can’t remember–that they only show in the middle of the nigh…possibly because they’re afraid that someone will discover that they have something worthwhile after all… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Raven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dbc845/32.png) [@The\_Raven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Raven)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2000, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/die-you-fucking-hypocrites-at-mtv-die/27111/15 "2000-07-30T03:00:51Z")
The only show I used to watch for on MTV was those sockpuppets, Sifl and Olly. Yeah, that could be one funny show. Proof that one can actually do a decent tv show with an operating budget of about 5 bucks per. Other than that, and the ones mentioned…well.