# Different songs, same melody

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 11, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981 "2011-04-11T18:27:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/121 "2017-10-10T01:21:39Z")

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Already gone by Kelly Clarkson and Halo by Beyonce

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/122 "2017-10-10T03:36:44Z")

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(…arise, zombie minion…)

There’s a distinct similarity between [Jimmy Reed’s “Big Boss Man”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4E0Vy5J-A), [ELP’s “Tiger in a Spotlight”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5zuU7MFK7Q), and [the Sesame Street theme song.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvBU1a1HBUg)

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**Author:** ![Jamesaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecd19e/32.png) [@Jamesaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamesaz)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/123 "2017-12-02T05:26:05Z")

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Back on the chain gang…Pretenders

Fotos y recuerdos…Selena

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**Author:** ![jerez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c68b51/32.png) [@jerez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jerez)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/124 "2017-12-02T08:46:57Z")

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Escape Club’s “Wild, Wild West” (1988) seems to borrow heavily from Elvis Costello’s “Pump It Up” (1978).

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**Author:** ![CelticKnot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/celticknot/32/3392_2.png) [@CelticKnot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CelticKnot)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/125 "2017-12-02T19:55:26Z")

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Sung to the tune of The Ballad of Gilligan’s Island, but not mentioned in #66 or #81  
Amazing Grace

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/126 "2017-12-02T20:00:11Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> . . . which is from the French song “Ah! vous dirai-je, Maman.”

…which was written by Mozart

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/127 "2017-12-02T20:13:13Z")

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In addition to the other bits of classical music made into standard show songs, Nat King Cole’s “Nature Boy” is based on a phrase from a Dvorak piano trio - bit whether it was a conscious lift or not, I don’t know. Likewise, the Carlos Gardel tango song “Por Una Cabeza” (the tango in Scent of a Woman) opens with a phrase that occurs several times in at least one Mozart piece and I think another composer also used it.

Oh yes, and there was a big “wall of sound” disco number whose name I forget that uses the “big tune” from the Saint-Saens Organ Symphony.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/128 "2017-12-02T23:31:50Z")

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The theme song for “[Where On Earth Is Carmen Sandiego](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGufyFt6zQc)” (probably one of the best time-travelling detective shows based on a computer game ever) is based on “[Die Entführung aus dem Serail](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqTuy9trijw).”

Of course, it would be perfectly in character for Carmen Sandiego to steal Mozart’s music just so she could have a theme song.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/129 "2017-12-03T00:29:44Z")

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In 1961 the Don Shirley Trio had a minor hit with an instrumental version of the folk song Water Boy. [There’s a section](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR9d1l6oOxI) where the melody is nearly identical to the 1971 song [Put Your Hand in the Hand](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulh5Y71Qwk0), here performed by Ocean.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/130 "2017-12-04T05:21:49Z")

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> [@CelticKnot](#):
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> …which was written by Mozart

He wrote a set of variations on the tune. The tune itself was first published 20 years before his composition.

> **[Ah! vous dirai-je, maman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ah!_vous_dirai-je,_maman)**
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> "Ah! vous dirai-je, maman" (.mw-parser-output .IPA-label-small{font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .references .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .infobox .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .navbox .IPA-label-small{font-size:100%}French: \[a vu diʁeʒ(ə) mamɑ̃\], English: Oh! Shall I tell you, Mama) is a popular children's song in France. Since its composition in the 18th century, the melody has been applied to numerous lyrics in multiple languages – the English-language song "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little S...

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**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/131 "2017-12-04T18:31:39Z")

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Frank Sinatra’s My Way uses the same tune as Claude Francois’s Comme d’Habitude

The lyrics are completely different (beyond being in different languages). The French song, if I understand it correctly, is about a couple who have fallen out of love, but continue their day to day routines (comme d’habitude)

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/132 "2017-12-05T11:22:17Z")

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> [@Jamesaz](#):
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> Back on the chain gang…Pretenders
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> Fotos y recuerdos…Selena

I’ll Stand by You…Pretenders

Estoy Aquí…Shakira

Clearly the Pretenders enjoyed an ongoing musical dialogue with Latina female pop stars.

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/133 "2017-12-05T11:48:31Z")

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Not precisely the same, but the Cal and UCLA fight songs are pretty darn close.

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/134 "2017-12-05T14:58:24Z")

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> [@Kizarvexius](#):
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> With the exception of the last two measures or so, the jingle for Slinky (It walks down stairs / alone or in pairs) is almost identical to the introduction of “If you want a receipt” from Gilbert and Sullivan’s _Patience_.

Not exactly coincidental, but the old Slinky jingle sounds just like Ren and Stimpy’s [Log commercial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fQGPZTECYs).

“What rolls down stairs  
alone or in pairs,  
and over your neighbor’s dog?  
What’s great for a snack,  
And fits on your back?  
It’s log, log, log  
It’s Lo-og, it’s Lo-og,  
it’s big, it’s heavy, it’s wood  
It’s Lo-og, it’s Lo-og,  
It’s better than bad, it’s good”

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**Author:** ![jerez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c68b51/32.png) [@jerez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jerez)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/135 "2017-12-05T16:01:35Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> …Nat King Cole’s “Nature Boy” is based on a phrase from a Dvorak piano trio…

Isn’t that the second movement of the Piano [Quintet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SInKlybxgQw) no. 2?

I had a listen to “Nature Boy” because the title sounded familiar. Yep, that’s the one, but I think it’s the first time I’ve seen the [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq0XJCJ1Srw). Captivating performance, I have to say. Nat looks like he’s about to melt (or _something_), and Oscar Moore’s playing is brilliant. Internet sez Moore laid bricks and ran a gas station in his later years. Died in Las Vegas in 1981, at 66 years of age. Damn.

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/136 "2017-12-05T16:12:22Z")

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The tune for Gnarls Barkley’s “Crazy” and Adele’s “Rolling in the deep” are exactly the same, you can mash them together [perfectly](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAdIjJR2BOM).

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/137 "2017-12-05T18:11:32Z")

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> [@jerez](#):
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> Isn’t that the second movement of the Piano [Quintet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SInKlybxgQw) no. 2?

I stand corrected and beg its pardon.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/138 "2018-10-26T08:39:57Z")

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The beats sound really similar. May just be because Gavin wanted to do a riff on Igor’s stuff since Spider-Man 2018 and Sunset Overdrive were published by the same people, but still.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/139 "2018-10-30T00:04:23Z")

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ABBA released two songs with the same melody: Happy Hawaii & Why Did it Have to be Me?

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/different-songs-same-melody/577981/140 "2018-10-30T15:25:32Z")

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I was going to make a joke about the band Train playing “Heart and Soul” during their beginner’s piano lesson and changing the words to make [Play That Song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5qWnG5RQTk), but when I looked it up I see that they gave Hoagy Carmichael writing credits so it probably sorta happened that way.

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