# Digital art creator algorithm website **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** arts-crafts, ai\ **Created:** [April 1, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081 "2022-04-01T01:26:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 100
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1983 "2024-01-10T03:06:01Z")
The hordes of women descending into close-quarters combat over pink travel cups has made me think of other fads. Here are a few notable examples of cabbage-doll hybrids. [![](https://i.postimg.cc/htL6fvmv/cabbages-grid.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/htL6fvmv/cabbages-grid.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1984 "2024-01-10T03:48:28Z")
I’m still abusing the My Face lora at Night Cafe. This is me as Satan in Red: [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53453557302_a8b2f61ddf_b.jpg "lQWNtaumbRqsog9Fhk7d--1--0ouxt") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/183290460@N02/53453557302/) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1985 "2024-01-10T23:46:40Z")
Trying to create a visual pun involving a donkey-like animal with a halo (indicating that it is nice) with a pair of birds sitting on its back. 90% of the time Bing tries to draw the halo anywhere but on the donkey-like animal. > **[Bing](https://www.bing.com/images/create/photo-of-a-donkey-with-a-halo-over-it27s-head-two-/1-659f0a512e6e4a408fd29d6e7806e225?id=4A5J16LnTJXy5nz9ChVHMw%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay)** > > Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you. > **[Bing](https://www.bing.com/images/create/photo-of-a-donkey-with-a-halo-over-it27s-head-two-/1-659f0c629cd34e4b92c139c0a920d0df?id=qSXH5Ai1u1YL0K1J4ip9tA%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay)** > > Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you. I thought this failure was funny. It placed the halo over the girl–but the halo is held in place by wires. [![](https://i.postimg.cc/Jz4hpkGF/ee483280-b550-4d10-a4f2-8a542a570b54.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/Jz4hpkGF/ee483280-b550-4d10-a4f2-8a542a570b54.jpg) This is as close as I got to the image I was aiming for (even though the donkey-like animal is too big). [![](https://i.postimg.cc/nrj5SG6n/d9e6d95c-b8a0-47dd-b6b4-9c1572e635ace.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/nrj5SG6n/d9e6d95c-b8a0-47dd-b6b4-9c1572e635ace.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1986 "2024-01-11T17:40:21Z")
Trying for a spherical vacuum in a cow. This might pass, if a cow’s digestive tract was lined with tiny cow heads. (And why not, I ask you?) [![](https://i.postimg.cc/hv2qpLJX/2eca071b-95ab-426f-acb5-b281b947062e.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/hv2qpLJX/2eca071b-95ab-426f-acb5-b281b947062e.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1987 "2024-01-12T01:48:50Z")
Inspired by [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ingredient-chocolate-mousse/995975) thread, I just tried for a moose made out of chocolate chips. Note the sign. [![](https://i.postimg.cc/5yd2M901/de1f5d31-6c07-423f-9ef3-bdbb6a9966af.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/5yd2M901/de1f5d31-6c07-423f-9ef3-bdbb6a9966af.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1988 "2024-01-12T02:57:40Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Note the sign. Did you prompt it with the term mocolate choose or did it come up with that based on the prompt of chocolate chips and moose? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1989 "2024-01-12T03:43:15Z")
I literally just asked for a photo of a moose made out of chocolate chips. > **[Bing](https://www.bing.com/images/create/photo-of-a-moose-made-of-chocolate-chips/1-65a0981bc5ac41538a718537d792d83d?id=vSpIEYELJL%2fceYtBFR4IGg%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay)** > > Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1990 "2024-01-12T03:47:31Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I literally just asked for a photo of a moose made out of chocolate chips Damn. I feel like that’s gotta be a coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1991 "2024-01-12T03:51:11Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Damn. I feel like that’s gotta be a coincidence. When I _try_ for amusing typos they are hard to get. Recently I tried making a rack of postcards for the vacation resort Pen Island that say “Welcome to Pen Island”. DE3 was both careful with the spelling and conventional with the imagery. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1992 "2024-01-13T17:16:02Z")
How do you get Bing to show an average looking woman? Someone you might meet on the street or in a 7-11. All I ever get mostly is stunningly attractive women in full makeup. I’ve used stuff like “average”, “unattractive”, “no makeup” and I still consistently get stuff like this: [![](https://i.imgur.com/Slx9RP8.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/Slx9RP8.jpg) If I used things like “bedraggled” etc, the clothes and hair become shabby. The woman remains stunning and wearing way too much makeup. Stop showing me supermodels! [![](https://i.imgur.com/x1ixQ81.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/x1ixQ81.jpg) (I’m also frustrated I can’t get that image with only the torch as a light source.) ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1993 "2024-01-13T17:46:10Z")
Might be possible but good luck. You’re running up against the fact that the AI was trained on images from the internet and most images of women on the internet are (a) celebrities, (b) porn or (c) influencers and wannabe influencers off Instagram, VSCO, etc. The AI doesn’t even have a grasp on what an “average” woman looks like because the internet average ain’t the real life average and average normal women who post their photos don’t tag them as “I’m an average woman”. With some AIs you can use a known average looking noteworthy person to prompt in that direction but Bing is allergic to known names. Best I can offer is to bust out the thesaurus and maybe expand into physical traits against the normal like “broad nose”, “round face”, “thin lips”… basically the opposite of what the AI version of woman looks like. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1994 "2024-01-13T19:54:31Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Might be possible but good luck. You’re running up against the fact that the AI was trained on images from the internet and most images of women on the internet are (a) celebrities, (b) porn or (c) influencers and wannabe influencers off Instagram Thanks for the reply. Hmmm: if they can use Instagram, I’d think they could scrape a boatload of really average or not that attractive people off of Facebook. > [@Jophiel](#): > > est I can offer is to bust out the thesaurus and maybe expand into physical traits against the normal like “broad nose”, “round face”, “thin lips”… basically the opposite of what the AI version of woman looks like Thanks for the suggestion. I’m trying that and now I get supermodels or cartoon characters. Damn you, Bing! This comes close, but doesn’t really follow my prompt: “photo of a woman with a wide nose and small eyes and thin lips and a round face, hair pulled back, in an unlit cave passage carrying a torch, walking toward the camera, dressed as an explorer. 50mm” [![](https://i.imgur.com/o2bCid7.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/o2bCid7.jpg) Definitely not broad nose or thin lips. Lips are huge. Face is roundish I guess? Didn’t ask for pigtails, wth? Cartoon character results that also don’t follow my prompt really: [![](https://i.imgur.com/pLRt0TV.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/pLRt0TV.jpg) [![](https://i.imgur.com/8AtvXVn.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/8AtvXVn.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1995 "2024-01-13T20:22:58Z")
photo of a bedraggled haggard tired 30 year old woman with a wide nose and small eyes and thin lips and a round face, hair pulled back, in an unlit cave passage carrying a torch, walking toward the camera, dressed as an explorer. grainy disposable camera snapshot [![](https://i.postimg.cc/NjH6YN89/cavewoman-grid.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/NjH6YN89/cavewoman-grid.jpg) Other attempts > **[Bing](https://www.bing.com/images/create/photo-of-a-bedraggled-haggard-tired-30-year-old-wo/1-65a2eec9f3f241e3b51af7e4df5b21db?id=pBY%2fQv3IlVbcEfmRr09epA%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay)** > > Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you. > **[Bing](https://www.bing.com/images/create/photo-of-a-bedraggled-haggard-tired-40-year-old-wo/1-65a2ed14ff7f4002849d783ae13aaef0?id=pEFSvhUmsCVB3LeR11j0eQ%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay)** > > Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you. > **[Bing](https://www.bing.com/images/create/photo-of-a-bedraggled-haggard-tired-middle-aged-wo/1-65a2ebf797fd48a1a01039b8e11c62fd?id=U1dxxvt7NTzHRFWpvW3vLA%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay)** > > Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1996 "2024-01-13T20:25:59Z")
I’d bet haggard, tired, 30yo helped a lot. I’ll experiment. Thank you. Your other experiments were just aging that prompt I think? Wish I had more control over the light source. Your seem to be flash photography. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1997 "2024-01-13T20:27:51Z")
Also don’t discount the utility of “grainy disposable camera snapshot”. You can also put a year or decade on the end. ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1998 "2024-01-13T20:42:19Z")
I had to cheat a little but I got this: > **[Bing](https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-woman-that-looks-like-the-tv-character-roseanne-/1-65a2f4f03a4d478ca36275b149e36b6a?id=amuiAnUxFYVpzhWHPLF%2FSA.GtzpT4Kir%2BTuUQrY%2B72IhQ&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&darkschemeovr=1&edgehub=1&form=GCRIDP)** > > Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1999 "2024-01-13T20:43:50Z")
Agreed, that does make a difference. I took out “bedraggled haggard tired”, left the age and the camera part, and got this: [![](https://i.imgur.com/Q7YDx19.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/Q7YDx19.jpg) More ‘average’ looking. Then tried 15 years and got a fairly normal looking teenager: [![](https://i.imgur.com/ZOoiKH2.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/ZOoiKH2.jpg) I think your camera shot bit helped a lot. I’m unconvinced “wide nose and small eyes and thin lips and a round face” did much. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2000 "2024-01-13T20:58:49Z")
Replacing “unlit” with “dark” might have some effect. > **[Bing](https://www.bing.com/images/create/photo-of-a-30-year-old-woman-with-a-wide-nose-and-/1-65a2f8575b684939880a942826d32cc7?id=6WsEwQ9cZ9oWVyOxOOYSPA%3d%3d&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&FORM=GCRIDP&mode=overlay)** > > Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2001 "2024-01-13T21:04:14Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > lacing “unlit” with “dark” might have some effect Nah, just got 4 images that were lit with either natural light behind or overhead incandescent fixtures. Still getting credible ‘average’ humans though! (3 of 4 taking a selfie with that disposable camera.) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2002 "2024-01-13T21:08:17Z")
photo of a bedraggled haggard tired 30 year old woman with a wide nose and small eyes and thin lips and a round face, hair pulled back, in an unlit cave passage carrying a torch, walking toward the camera, dressed as a dora the explorer. grainy disposable camera snapshot. [![](https://i.postimg.cc/52TLKjyM/6a35984d-2544-462e-81e5-539623f90c6a.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/52TLKjyM/6a35984d-2544-462e-81e5-539623f90c6a.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081.md?page=99) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081.md?page=101)