# Digital art creator algorithm website **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** arts-crafts, ai\ **Created:** [April 1, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081 "2022-04-01T01:26:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 107
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2123 "2024-03-17T00:42:15Z")
Actually, looks like it is Dreamshaper XL Lightning instead of plain XL Lightning. [https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/IV5gDM3QIO3wD7wFaakq](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/IV5gDM3QIO3wD7wFaakq) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2124 "2024-03-17T00:45:36Z")
Also, apparently the 5 day streak bonus credits has been increased from 5 credits to 25 credits. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2125 "2024-03-17T03:49:29Z")
Your link wants your login and I have no idea how to evaluate " Night Cafe recently added SDXL Lightning". I tried the demo page and it sucks. How do I get your experience? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2126 "2024-03-17T04:36:00Z")
I just tried the link in browsers not logged into Night Cafe and it seems to be a normal shared image to me. But in Night Cafe [choose Dreamshaper XL Lightning from the extensive options of models](https://i.postimg.cc/jjbvDb6K/Screenshot-20240317-003319.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2127 "2024-03-17T04:44:50Z")
I’m sorry I’m not you, but I’m not you. This stuff doesn’t work. The jpeg you pasted is just a still image. I get this: [![](https://i.imgur.com/mAPwjft.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/mAPwjft.png) So what? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2128 "2024-03-17T04:59:11Z")
I’m not sure where the confusion sets in, so I’ll go from the very basics. Night Cafe is a web site that allows you to use various AI engines to create images. The site is the original subject of this thread when the thread began more than a year ago. Many hundreds of the posts have been about Night Cafe. You go to [Night Cafe](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/). You create an account. You go to “create”. You switch to “advanced mode” using the slider at the top. You choose your model (in this case Dreamshaper XL Lightning). You type in the prompt (in this case “Mulder and Scully confronting Alf”). You choose your image settings, you hit “create”. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2129 "2024-03-17T20:25:21Z")
OK, thanks for the tips. After playing for a bit, I still really can’t stand NC. No matter the model, I still get better results from Bing, and NC has such a crap interface, and the money grubbing and inability to make more than 1 full size image stinks. I don’t know why Bing gives me better results, they probably have some under-the-hood prompt massaging? I mean, Bing has lots of issues, no customization, and just randomly blocks prompts and won’t tell you why, but with persistence I can get decent results, and I get four full size (well, 1k^2) results when I hit on a good prompt that I’m having fun with. What I really miss is Catbird.ai . That was big fun. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2130 "2024-03-18T03:08:44Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > don’t know why Bing gives me better results, they probably have some under-the-hood prompt massaging? Because Bing is using Dall-E 3, which is more advanced than SDXL. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2131 "2024-03-18T03:11:25Z")
I don’t follow you - Nite Cafe has Dall-E 3 and I’ve used it. [![](https://i.imgur.com/255l1ad.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/255l1ad.png) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2132 "2024-03-18T03:23:11Z")
I was never offered any free renders for that. To me it is a paid subscription only feature. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2133 "2024-03-18T14:59:35Z")
I’m having some fun with [civitai.com](http://civitai.com) if anyone wants to give it a go. Tons of models, but no apparent way to just subscribe and get more features. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2134 "2024-03-19T22:51:50Z")
Night Cafe has introduced animation - as in you can animate any one of your creations. It’s Pro feature, but they’re giving everyone five freebies. I’m not sure what the actual credit cost is going to be. I’m also not sure what the results are like yet as I’ve just set one off and it takes quite a while to render, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2135 "2024-03-19T23:05:36Z")
Initial results are … meh. You get a three second video. The starting image is obvious and the video makes immediate and obvious changes to the image. I don’t know if that makes sense, so let’s see if I can upload the results here… Start image: [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53597586442_9c0443f895_b.jpg "W10kKjmrKp1Fjyz0ShIJ--1--gqkjs") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/183290460@N02/53597586442/) Video (if that doesn’t work on the board, it’s on my Flickr board): [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/31337/53598460166_64de355233_z.jpg "W10kKjmrKp1Fjyz0ShIJ-SVD-dsl44") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/183290460@N02/53598460166/) ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2136 "2024-03-19T23:07:04Z")
Yeah, it’s only like 5fps ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2137 "2024-03-19T23:45:42Z")
My second attempt crashed out. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2138 "2024-03-20T00:02:42Z")
The first image I tried crashed twice. The next two worked, but aren’t good. [https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/ZtXR6tSySttaxwVfgFWs](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/ZtXR6tSySttaxwVfgFWs) [https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/uof6ZXpgsdHVPWLOxhJE](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/uof6ZXpgsdHVPWLOxhJE) ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2139 "2024-03-20T00:21:37Z")
I think the first one is sneezing itself inside out. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2140 "2024-03-20T01:43:42Z")
This one came out okay. I was wondering if it would try to animate the whole thing - it looks cool just floating across the sky like that. [https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/pSH194Y6pWvv5vodCIeW](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/pSH194Y6pWvv5vodCIeW) ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2141 "2024-03-20T01:59:20Z")
This one came out cool too … kind of a reverse concept of the previous one: [https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/3SmqWMPhmjz4IIg8nUBz](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/3SmqWMPhmjz4IIg8nUBz) ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2142 "2024-03-20T02:03:34Z")
BTW … it’s 5 credits per animation and there are no settings to play with. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081.md?page=106) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081.md?page=108)