# Digital art creator algorithm website

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** arts-crafts, ai\
**Created:** [April 1, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081 "2022-04-01T01:26:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2183 "2024-06-04T22:36:40Z")

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An album cover for a band called The Jackbatties, called, “The Delicate Touch.”  
(pretty much no other prompts):

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53770320834_ecdb00d958_b.jpg "8mdO0aqqBRY6wvqs2cUQ--hm97o") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/183290460@N02/53770320834/)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2184 "2024-06-05T06:08:35Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> The more I mess with Ideology the more I’m convinced that text is about the only thing it’s good at. I’m getting muddled messes most every other time.

I wanted to see if it could write out text in rocks on a beach (the specific text wasn’t important).

[![](https://i.postimg.cc/Qxc4hh5S/sheshells-grid.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/Qxc4hh5S/sheshells-grid.jpg)

The first image “got” what I was looking for pretty well. The second one is less close but in the ballpark. The rest missed the point but are still pretty impressive examples of text generation.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2024, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2185 "2024-06-06T11:55:33Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> The more I mess with Ideology the more I’m convinced that text is about the only thing it’s good at. I’m getting muddled messes most every other time.

I’ve been playing around with variations on a prompt I saw on Facebook. I plugged the following into Bing and Ideogram:

> **Summary**
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> A chalk drawing on black construction paper of an exaggerated looking John McClane from Die Hard wearing a dirty white tank top and Barney with a big head and big eyes, a skinny body and skinny legs with big feet, in a forest, bold solid colors, in the style of Zdzisław Beksiński, clear and sharp, raw.

Here is a set from Bing:

[![](https://i.postimg.cc/RV35d1sq/chalk-sample-de3.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/RV35d1sq/chalk-sample-de3.jpg)

And a set from Ideogram:

[![](https://i.postimg.cc/rwmJxgQY/chalk-sample-ideogram.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/rwmJxgQY/chalk-sample-ideogram.jpg)

As you can see, the results aren’t as good and neither is the understanding of the prompt.

Here are some more outputs from Bing. (All of these are "style of Jan Kip, like it was in the original prompt):

[![](https://i.postimg.cc/MGcJP7K9/4chalk1-grid.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/MGcJP7K9/4chalk1-grid.jpg)

[![](https://i.postimg.cc/tRn7Z63t/4chalk2-grid.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/tRn7Z63t/4chalk2-grid.jpg)

This is the original found prompt:

> **Summary**
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> A chalk on black construction paper drawing of an exaggerated looking cat with a very long neck, big head and big eyes, a skinny body and long skinny legs with big feet, in the city at night, bold solid colors, in the style of Jan Kip, clear and sharp, raw.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2186 "2024-06-06T19:13:50Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> And this one asks two age-old questions.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/Npbr1Xp.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/Npbr1Xp.jpg)

What a difference two years makes.

[![](https://i.postimg.cc/cCVNYhBz/piw.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/cCVNYhBz/piw.jpg)

[![](https://i.postimg.cc/DfDhtf3c/bc.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/DfDhtf3c/bc.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2187 "2024-06-07T13:03:02Z")

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Y’know, really, it shouldn’t be too hard to make an image generator that does a good job with text, if that’s the specific goal that you’re pursuing. You start by training an image generator to make images of individual letters in whatever style, and then you use a “dumb” program (i.e., not AI) to arrange those generated letters correctly, and then you use that as a starting image for another round of AI, or superimpose them on top of an otherwise AI-generated image.

On a completely different note, I’m wondering what that thing is on the altar in front of Fr. Urso. It looks almost like a book… but a book with three pages side-by-side, rather than the usual two. And then some sort of platform sitting on the middle verso, with a pewter… something… on it.

The bear is also polydactyl, but I don’t know how common that is for bears (it’s not too rare in cats, for instance).

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2188 "2024-06-11T23:53:43Z")

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I just tried a prompt at Ideogram, let it do “magic” to it, and one of the images generated got my first encounter with their version of the Bing eggdog.

[![](https://i.postimg.cc/DwN0rgv2/a-captivating-ukiyo-e-style-illustration-of-a-saty-UCv-YTt4q-QIyj-C1a0-HEld-DA-0-B6q0-Ij-QKyp9-UKn-GNUJYw.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/DwN0rgv2/a-captivating-ukiyo-e-style-illustration-of-a-saty-UCv-YTt4q-QIyj-C1a0-HEld-DA-0-B6q0-Ij-QKyp9-UKn-GNUJYw.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2189 "2024-06-13T00:48:53Z")

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Stable Diffusion 3 beta is available for download, apparently sucks.

> **[Ridiculed Stable Diffusion 3 release excels at AI-generated body horror](https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/06/ridiculed-stable-diffusion-3-release-excels-at-ai-generated-body-horror/)**
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> Users react to mangled SD3 generations and ask, "Is this release supposed to be a joke?"

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2190 "2024-06-26T01:47:06Z")

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Today’s challenge at NightCafe is Magazine Covers and I’m having way too much fun with Ideogram (Turbo - 3 credits a pop).

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53816332741_be839c848a_b.jpg "RqP7zagJGaCa17UPTdKR--6bmcl") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/183290460@N02/53816332741/)

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53816663904_1b187ba907_b.jpg "niVvtxxsQk8sw49MqOQv--w18wj") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/183290460@N02/53816663904/)

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53816332756_25a56a96f5_b.jpg "9qmLXGECa5hdGR2RS8Yf--k10wo") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/183290460@N02/53816332756/)

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2191 "2024-06-26T02:04:20Z")

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The first one is kinda cute. The second two? I’m sorry, I don’t find mariticide (spouse murder) particularly funny. Shame on you.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2192 "2024-06-26T02:40:44Z")

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Shame on me? Get a grip.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2193 "2024-06-26T02:49:45Z")

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Spouse murder is hilarious. Got it. I’ll let Melania know.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2194 "2024-06-26T02:59:07Z")

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Nm discourse

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2195 "2024-06-26T21:36:25Z")

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Here’s my entry:

[![](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/59OKPMeIeidkVYYEiqvz/59OKPMeIeidkVYYEiqvz--1--6yoj5.jpg?tr=w-1080,c-at_max) ](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/59OKPMeIeidkVYYEiqvz/59OKPMeIeidkVYYEiqvz--1--6yoj5.jpg?tr=w-1080,c-at_max)

Biden and Trump are good, but I spent a lot of credits trying to get a better Alfred.

I created this one a while ago, It’s a better Alfred, and I think a better image overall, but I couldn’t get it to add a title.  
[![](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/YhbgYxWYpEiBdg1xFIqN/YhbgYxWYpEiBdg1xFIqN--1--h4242.jpg?tr=w-1200,c-at_max) ](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/YhbgYxWYpEiBdg1xFIqN/YhbgYxWYpEiBdg1xFIqN--1--h4242.jpg?tr=w-1200,c-at_max)

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2196 "2024-06-26T21:42:09Z")

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Where’s the tooth gap?

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2197 "2024-06-26T21:42:58Z")

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Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. Alfred has all his teeth, WTH?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2198 "2024-06-26T21:44:59Z")

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believe me, I spent many credits saying “smile shows a missing tooth” and similar. It ignored the instructions. Any advice?

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2199 "2024-06-30T17:11:58Z")

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How is that not trademark infringement (generating a fake _Cosmo_ cover)

~Max

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2200 "2024-06-30T18:42:09Z")

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I’ll let you know if Cosmopolitan comes after me.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2201 "2024-06-30T19:12:33Z")

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You can’t infringe a trademark by just drawing something. You have to use it in “trade” - selling stuff. The existence of an image is not violating Cosmo’s right of trade using their mark that you’ve imitated. There’s no damage so no remedy.

(This gets a little subtle, but not that subtle: you can market a car or energy drink or whatever as “Cosmopolitan”, because a consumer won’t think you’re selling them the trademarked magazine. Confusing the consumer is key to violating a trademark and seeking damages or other remedy. No confusion = no damages = no case. “Cosmopolitan hamburgers” aren’t easily confused with a magazine.

The _look_ of the logo “Cosmopolitan” is protected by intellectual property law, and could be gone after by copyright or trademark (or, hell, even design patent) law if you clone it, but all you - as the marketer of “Cosmopolitan” cars or energy drinks - need do is change the font or something equally trivial to skirt the problem. This isn’t usually that big a deal unless the trademark holder or infringing party is incredibly stupid.)

- squeegee, son of intellectual property attorney.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2202 "2024-06-30T23:58:13Z")

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Wondered what folks thought if this (limited gift link provided) article? Some truly weird stuff.

> **[The deluge of bonkers AI art is literally surreal](https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/of-interest/2024/06/30/ai-art-facebook-slop-artificial-intelligence/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzE5NzIwMDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzIxMTAyMzk5LCJpYXQiOjE3MTk3MjAwMDAsImp0aSI6ImU0OGMzYzZmLWM2NDMtNDRkZi1hZjY1LTc4NmMyMjAzMzUzNyIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9zdHlsZS9vZi1pbnRlcmVzdC8yMDI0LzA2LzMwL2FpLWFydC1mYWNlYm9vay1zbG9wLWFydGlmaWNpYWwtaW50ZWxsaWdlbmNlLyJ9.wri3EHvvfBR2SQXdhVYsrx0hVFF-evQ5uHH5E6_n_08&itid=gfta)**
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> Technology has unleashed a wave of images that are too weird to be legitimate, but real enough to stir feelings. Are we seeing a new age of surrealism?

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