# Digital art creator algorithm website **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** arts-crafts, ai\ **Created:** [April 1, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081 "2022-04-01T01:26:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 115
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2283 "2025-04-08T08:38:43Z")
The new ChatGPT/Sora combo really is game-changing [![](https://i.imgur.com/nJamSAD.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/nJamSAD.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2284 "2025-04-08T12:45:11Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > The new ChatGPT/Sora combo Where are you seeing that the new image engine inside ChatGPT-4o is called Sora? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2285 "2025-04-08T12:57:15Z")
I was mistaken, thinking that ChatGPT was linking to Sora because it was first discussed in the Sora thread. Seems like it is actually the opposite direction, though. Sora taps into ChatGPT for image generation now. It is strange, though, ChatGPT talks like it is tapping into a completely different system to generate images. As I quoted it saying above: > Looks like the image generation tool is still having issues on the backend—it’s throwing a server error when trying to create the comic. Totally on the system’s side, not your end. It will (_very_) often attempt to run an image and after a couple of minutes come back with an apology that it isn’t allowed to make that type of image, as if it is accessing something exterior to itself ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2286 "2025-04-08T12:59:32Z")
Here’s a hat I’d like to see become popular: [![](https://i.gyazo.com/c8d74c8c6ad26fe621eea0afec5ca021.jpg) ](https://i.gyazo.com/c8d74c8c6ad26fe621eea0afec5ca021.jpg) ChatGPT-4o, natch. Asked for the larger text and sans-serif, it delivered. ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2287 "2025-04-08T13:20:38Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > It is strange, though, ChatGPT talks like it is tapping into a completely different system to generate images. What makes you think it’s lying? Every indication I see is that it’s calling something else, similar to how it used to call Dall-E. Major differences is it now throws your _entire_ context at the new engine instead of generating a paragraph of text to throw at it, and you can specifically show it whole images too. It groks them much more fully than Dall-E ever could, but it still has limits on how much fine detail it can manage when making a new version. This separate image generator has much higher guardrails. When I argue with ChatGPT that what I asked for should be allowed, it usually agrees with me, but it has no control over the image generator’s censor. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2288 "2025-04-08T13:29:00Z")
> [@Ponderoid](#): > > Every indication I see is that it’s calling something else, similar to how it used to call Dall-E. OpenAI says > Because image generation is now native to GPT‑4o From [https://openai.com/index/introducing-4o-image-generation/](https://openai.com/index/introducing-4o-image-generation/) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2289 "2025-04-08T13:34:12Z")
I still don’t know what I asked for that was wrong in this fun conversation. (It spent a minute or two trying to make each image each time.) [![](https://i.imgur.com/6smtoC7.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/6smtoC7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2290 "2025-04-08T13:56:00Z")
I think this is indicating ChatGPT is throwing the entire context at its image generator. The generator’s censor saw what you were trying to do earlier in the conversation and it’s thinking “Nope, it’s now clear you want something bad, so I’m not gonna let you try anything close to that.” The initial censor trip might have been from something in the earlier context, or in your custom instructions or the stored memories (if active) that it didn’t like. You tend to get better results if you start a new branch in the conversation tree without any censor or error results in it. [![](https://i.gyazo.com/7d42788dfe541564779711ff815c291d.png?nonce=2) ](https://i.gyazo.com/7d42788dfe541564779711ff815c291d.png?nonce=2) [![](https://i.gyazo.com/f7af928d8e924d21b3e97a6a66d2688b.jpg?nonce=2) ](https://i.gyazo.com/f7af928d8e924d21b3e97a6a66d2688b.jpg?nonce=2) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2291 "2025-04-08T14:07:24Z")
Cool. My purpose for that prompt was two-fold, one, playing with the idea of a multi-panel comic with the actual dialogue genereted by ChatGPT (as was the purpose of the ET telling a joke one) and two, seeing if the model had accurate ideas what a kappa and a tanuki are. (Other AIs do NOT). ChatGPT got the creatures right. And the text is somewhat sensecal. It may or may not be better than what Google Lens translates. [![](https://i.imgur.com/in1HRVK.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/in1HRVK.jpeg) It did fail at ukiyo-e styling, though. ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2292 "2025-04-08T14:18:55Z")
I was wondering if my earlier prompt and its answer had helped or hindered the generator in any way, so I tried the 0-shot version, duplicating your original prompt exactly, including the typo. I don’t have any memories or custom instructions currently active. [![](https://i.gyazo.com/df84cfe2a276873fcbca24629b58e8a4.jpg) ](https://i.gyazo.com/df84cfe2a276873fcbca24629b58e8a4.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2293 "2025-04-08T14:22:57Z")
I have also tried creating comics where I supplied the text. All three of these failed in some way, such as failing to create three distinctly separate speaking characters. > **Summary** > > A four panel comic with three dinosaurs. They are looking up at a huge comet in the sky. > > In the first panel, one dinosaur asks “Is that a CV chondrite?” > > In the second panel a second panel a second dinosaur says “No, I think it’s a CM.” > > In the third panel a third dinosaur says “Don’t be silly it’s clearly—” > > In the fourth panel there is a fiery mushroom cloud that has wiped out the dinosaurs. [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/DnfX5nI.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/XTL4N7m) (The humor is inside baseball—the target audience would get it.) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2294 "2025-04-08T14:31:40Z")
> [@Ponderoid](#): > > I think this is indicating ChatGPT is throwing the entire context at its image generator. The generator’s censor saw what you were trying to do earlier in the conversation and it’s thinking “Nope, it’s now clear you want something bad, so I’m not gonna let you try anything close to that.” That session started off with me trying to create a crayfish mermaid like in Jophel’s Midjourney post > Create an image a crayfish woman hybrid mermaid. Like a regular mermaid but with a tail like a crayfish has. Make it as realistic and photographic as you can. Which it refused. So I gave up on that and tried to convert that photo of mine of a Joro spider into the style of Junji Ito, which it refused to do (as I posted a few posts back). I then went on to the comic request. Maybe my spider request was tainted by the bad session, too. I’m going to try it again. (In the same session I later made the dino comics and the meat asterisk I posted in a different thread.) (ETA it still refuses to do the spider photo in a fresh window.) ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2295 "2025-04-08T14:43:30Z")
Yeah, it tends to be terrible showing the source of word balloons. I tried to do these in response to an earlier post in this thread, gave it up as a bad job. [![](https://i.gyazo.com/376c0b47c9da0908dd842ca038521237.jpg) ](https://i.gyazo.com/376c0b47c9da0908dd842ca038521237.jpg) [![](https://i.gyazo.com/7ddf3ea49cd85161450caed30ce84ce4.jpg) ](https://i.gyazo.com/7ddf3ea49cd85161450caed30ce84ce4.jpg) [![](https://i.gyazo.com/a8ad6bcab316871a49acaf0047ca5866.jpg) ](https://i.gyazo.com/a8ad6bcab316871a49acaf0047ca5866.jpg) Any of these could be easily fixed with a modicum of photoshop or gimp skills. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2296 "2025-04-08T14:45:37Z")
> [@Ponderoid](#): > > Any of these could be easily fixed with a modicum of photoshop or gimp skills. That last one kinda works. “Are you coming to bed?” “WHAT?! Someone is WRONG on the internet!” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2297 "2025-04-08T14:53:05Z")
It is willing to Ghibli the spider, so I guess the style of Junji Ito is banned. [![](https://i.imgur.com/rVYchpM.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/rVYchpM.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2298 "2025-04-08T14:56:59Z")
Hmm, for some reason, a traditional attribute of the tanuki is absent: _extremely_ large testicles. Historical portrayal of a tanuki: [File:Yoshitoshi tanuki.jpg - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yoshitoshi_tanuki.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2299 "2025-04-08T15:00:09Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > It is willing to Ghibli the spider, so I guess the style of Junji Ito is banned. I’ve noticed that its censor can act differently depending on whether you’re using a source image or not. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2300 "2025-04-08T15:05:43Z")
Success! I decided to try the dinosaur comic again, but at the end added > Each time a different dinosaur speaks. Make sure it is three different, distinct dinosaurs. And make the comic in widescreen. [![](https://i.imgur.com/MViGMNI.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/MViGMNI.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2301 "2025-04-08T15:07:40Z")
I like the Uniceratops (Monoceratops?) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/2302 "2025-04-08T15:26:52Z")
I just now told it “Try to make the same comic, but make it look like realistic photos.” [![](https://i.imgur.com/hlgMlGF.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/hlgMlGF.jpeg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081.md?page=114) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081.md?page=116)