# Digital art creator algorithm website

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** arts-crafts, ai\
**Created:** [April 1, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081 "2022-04-01T01:26:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/501 "2022-05-15T23:44:49Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I hate it when you go in with some grand idea and you experiment with it, evolving it this way and that, doing one’s best to carve out something … and you just get a bunch of non-artistic crap. This is my attempt at Satellite Overlooking a Dying Planet. This is like the 10th evolution. It sucks.

Switching out some prompts can help.

[https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/J4efdBqHEmAZyw3DScmg](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/J4efdBqHEmAZyw3DScmg)

I was trying for your dying planet as seen through Enterprise D’s viewscreen.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/502 "2022-05-16T00:19:25Z")

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I threw in that “hypermodernism” modifier without really knowing what hypermodernism is; that might be a monkey wrench too.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/503 "2022-05-16T00:26:42Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I hate it when you go in with some grand idea and you experiment with it, evolving it this way and that, doing one’s best to carve out something … and you just get a bunch of non-artistic crap.

I spent time this week trying to coax photos I have taken of [maypop flowers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passiflora_incarnata) into a creature with a colorful frilled collar around its neck (ideally organic, I would have settled for clothing) but never succeded. Ended up with some interesting alien/fantasy flowers, though.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/504 "2022-05-16T03:27:44Z")

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When you Coherent users do an image, where do you set the accuracy? Default or crank it up?

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/505 "2022-05-16T04:18:04Z")

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### Spaceship, Style of Intellivision

[https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/pyUCqWMMuw705ZylBExO/pyUCqWMMuw705ZylBExO.jpg](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/pyUCqWMMuw705ZylBExO/pyUCqWMMuw705ZylBExO.jpg)  
Well, not really in the _style_ of Intellivision but I think that’s supposed to be an Intellivision controller with the keypad and disc. Maybe Intellivision is too obscure to be a style.

### Spaceship, Style of Atari

[https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/yDNgiqGMysXueeeIqUA9/yDNgiqGMysXueeeIqUA9.jpg](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/yDNgiqGMysXueeeIqUA9/yDNgiqGMysXueeeIqUA9.jpg)  
That looks even worse. I don’t even get some wood grain or an Atari joystick.

### Spaceship, 4-Bit Graphics Style

[https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/CdSTwx7Vt5Day0DB6HEh/CdSTwx7Vt5Day0DB6HEh.jpg](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/CdSTwx7Vt5Day0DB6HEh/CdSTwx7Vt5Day0DB6HEh.jpg)  
_Eeehhhh…_ maybe? I mean, no one would look at that and say “That looks like 4-Bit graphics!” but maybe it’s intentionally trying to be simplistic?

### Spaceship, 8-Bit Graphics Style

[https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/shORKxA8Jhbw4ksCotS2/shORKxA8Jhbw4ksCotS2.jpg](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/shORKxA8Jhbw4ksCotS2/shORKxA8Jhbw4ksCotS2.jpg)  
You could charitably say that the background is made to be in the style but then you have that weirdly detailed spaceship.

### Spaceship, Pixel-Art Style

[https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/KAnvKy5wopEwevgeaUPU/KAnvKy5wopEwevgeaUPU.jpg](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/KAnvKy5wopEwevgeaUPU/KAnvKy5wopEwevgeaUPU.jpg)  
I want my money back.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/506 "2022-05-16T05:05:05Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> When you Coherent users do an image, where do you set the accuracy? Default or crank it up?

Default.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/507 "2022-05-16T05:33:08Z")

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I mentioned trying _Castle on a seaside cliff_ in various styles. One was _Legend of Zelda_, which I thought came out pretty well.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/OxaBIEM.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/OxaBIEM.jpg)

Then I did _Donkey Kong_

[![](https://i.imgur.com/GcdHahG.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/GcdHahG.jpg)

and _Super Mario Brothers_.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/lAhrJEA.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/lAhrJEA.jpg)

Kong and Mario don’t try for the low resolution, but I still think they get some of the spirit of the games right.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/508 "2022-05-16T11:59:23Z")

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This is one of my favorites so far. For the record, I did crank the weight on the accuracy. I took this photo of my dog, Bob, and my uncle’s dog, Murray, which I thought looked like two dogs posing as a folk duo in the 60’s, and I created this … one evolution:

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52050927659_1936698baf_b.jpg "murraybob") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/183290460@N02/52050927659/)

> **[Two Dogs Posing as a Folk Duo from the 60's - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/wvuqhRsC8ySirPW6LZvp)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/509 "2022-05-16T21:10:41Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I tried that same prompt last month (wow, have I really been playing with this thing that long?),

I remember talking about the complexity of a prompt. Now I’m doing prompts with a dozen parameters.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/510 "2022-05-16T21:43:31Z")

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Thinking about how unsymmetrical faces d to be, it hit me: why not try adding “symmetrical face”? So I did. It doesn’t completely solve the problem, but it lessens it, especially when paired with “wanted poster”. (Except for the odd disaster where it does nothing at all.)

I tested it with some yokai portraits, and one seed produced an especially interesting result, so I decided to see if it could produce reasonable humans. So I thought of five random one-word stereotypes to replace “yokai”: priest, rabbi, imam, Crip, and princess. All of them turned pretty well as caricatures.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/vC6BuyJ.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/vC6BuyJ.jpg)

It is weird how some seeds produce very similar images each time you run them but others make something completely different each time\*. For instance, I love the art of [Mark Ryden](https://www.markryden.com/gallery), so I’ve been working with his style (the AI knows it reasonably well). One seed/prompt tends to turn out a variation of this image (the first is my favorite—it looks like she is holding some evil spellbook or evil boardgame, or maybe Pandora’s Evil Box):

[![](https://i.imgur.com/fABN7Ld.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/fABN7Ld.jpg)

Except sometimes it tosses out something different, like this:

[![](https://i.imgur.com/Ims6Id9.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/Ims6Id9.jpg)

(Possibly a playing piece for an evil board game?)

If you want to play with them, the link for the caricature producer:

> **[Hat? What Hat? - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/P8wMvRwbX2Dh1fA0kCDR)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

the link for the Ryden image producer:

> **[Her favorite board game - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/fdvNuJKwzdJn09w78cd2)**
>
> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/511 "2022-05-16T21:45:22Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> ### Spaceship, Style of Atari
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> [![](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/yDNgiqGMysXueeeIqUA9/yDNgiqGMysXueeeIqUA9.jpg) ](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/yDNgiqGMysXueeeIqUA9/yDNgiqGMysXueeeIqUA9.jpg)  
> That looks even worse. I don’t even get some wood grain or an Atari joystick.

That DOES look a lot like the cover art from Atari games, though.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/512 "2022-05-16T22:06:37Z")

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That concrete wall is really useful for charcoal drawings.

> **[Haunted Forest #3 - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/lv0WCsdRxxSO89FJ9wdw)**
>
> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

Feel free to download a copy and try it for yourself. Here it is again:

[![](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/rVtnSWuZQP8A7dVuykYL/rVtnSWuZQP8A7dVuykYL.jpg?tr=w-1600,c-at_max) ](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/rVtnSWuZQP8A7dVuykYL/rVtnSWuZQP8A7dVuykYL.jpg?tr=w-1600,c-at_max)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/513 "2022-05-17T00:51:10Z")

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From one of my noise files, converted to greyscale:

> **[Haunted Forest #4 - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/RcJOxnrtYqZh0ZWIVz7o)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/514 "2022-05-17T01:23:17Z")

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I’ve been running another little experiment. I took an initial image, just the prompt, “Swamp Thing” and ran it through artistic. Then I decided to use that as the starting point to see what random artists from the modifier menu would do with it. For each artist I just added, “by _their name_” and then ran that _Swamp Thing_ image through Artistic, then Coherent, then back into Artistic. I also ran the original _Swamp Thing_ image first through Coherent then through Artistic, essentially giving me five results for each artist to see which comes out best. The results are interesting. I published the ones I like for each of the three artists I’ve done so far (Leonid Afremov (never heard of him), Kandinsky and Rafael Santi) though the one I like the best was a different iteration for each.

Original Swamp Thing image:

> **[Swamp Thing - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/sFteLiLLqS6xQHEw257G)**
>
> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

Afremov (Coherent):

> **[Swamp Thing - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/13FGq1BcLy8FFmIgci6p)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

I’m going to try different subject and different artists too.

Kandinsky (Artistic, Coherent, Artistic)

> **[Swamp Thing - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/EsMQ1AZqXQtXQzYy2eTp)**
>
> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

Rafael (Artistic, Coherent):

> **[Swamp Thing by Rafael Santi - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/8qZTBXZZRVYUuNdlZrHx)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/515 "2022-05-17T01:38:18Z")

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About landscapes, earlier I mentioned doing experiments with _castle on a seaside cliff | style of x_? Well this image came from nothing more than that plus “drone photography”.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/NeHCqlo.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/NeHCqlo.jpg)

So far I haven’t been able to create anything that spectacular again using all sorts of “this thing is up in the air” hints, but you might want to try.

> **[Anonymous User - User on NightCafe Creator](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/u/sw8veaqPG2bJhzsuLP7oVoh2aAB3)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/516 "2022-05-17T01:47:37Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I took an initial image, just the prompt, “Swamp Thing” and ran it through artistic.

I thought about (but didn’t) trying “swamp monster” in my quest to find creepy creatures to create that disguise the fact that the AIs are bad with faces. I know I mention yokai a lot, but monster and troll produce useable stuff, too (along with a few other mythical creatures). Things like elves and faries (which you expect to look rather human and even beautiful) are bad choices as well. My most recent try that worked was \*yurei", Japanese for “ghost”. I’m thinking of digging into the mythology of other cultures.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/517 "2022-05-17T02:47:53Z")

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Okay, you pushed me into trying one I had been thinking about. There is a monster in Asia that looks like a normal person (usually a woman) during the day but at night the head flies off (with the internal organs still attached and dangling below) to do various nefarious things. It has lots of names, but I tried “krasue” and also copy/pasted in the Thai word. The AI seems to have _some_ grasp of the concept, but not enough to produce a successful image. (Some interesting failures, though).

> **[Anonymous User - User on NightCafe Creator](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/u/3L6IXBXlEYWUUXRCKJbWP8h8yYA3)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/518 "2022-05-17T03:53:45Z")

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I hate to keep posting, but I notice on two of those figures it looks like the AI is trying to spell out the word “krasue”: once in black on a red knit sweater, and once in florescent green just below a mouth. I had something like that happen earlier—I had just read about a new restaurant opening nearby called the Cotton Duck Cafe, and, being at the computer, wondered how the AI would handle it. Would there be a duck made of cotton? But I got this:

[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/rua9tUa.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/X8FZTme)

Anyone else ever have attempts at words from prompts show up?

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/519 "2022-05-17T03:56:37Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> There is a monster in Asia that looks like a normal person (usually a woman) during the day but at night the head flies off (with the internal organs still attached and dangling below) to do various nefarious things.

### Penanggal | Horror (Artistic)

[![](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/bcvphrQ78rFzDD7g072x/bcvphrQ78rFzDD7g072x.jpg) ](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/bcvphrQ78rFzDD7g072x/bcvphrQ78rFzDD7g072x.jpg)  
Sort of an Asian woman monster head with no body and a seemingly severed neck. No dangling organs but it _seems_ to have an idea of what we’re talking about/

### Penanggal | Horror (Coherent)

[![](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/VPRkUVzhlqxE3QtGZ4Qg/VPRkUVzhlqxE3QtGZ4Qg.jpg) ](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/VPRkUVzhlqxE3QtGZ4Qg/VPRkUVzhlqxE3QtGZ4Qg.jpg)  
Angry Asian woman in a work polo in what is perhaps the world’s worst physical rehab clinic.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/520 "2022-05-17T11:31:39Z")

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I thought it was a manananggal? Maybe that’s a different demon? After 3 tries, nightcafe came up with one that did not have a lower half:  
[![](http://i.ompldr.pw/dpmog.jpg) ](http://i.ompldr.pw/dpmog.jpg)

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