# Digital art creator algorithm website

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** arts-crafts, ai\
**Created:** [April 1, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081 "2022-04-01T01:26:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/801 "2022-06-16T18:47:13Z")

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“Olan Mills double exposure”…is not a mod.

> **[Anonymous User - User on NightCafe Creator](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/u/blU3vxQXO0VzVqJSMN0QYnL5gQJ3)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

It went _sorta_ in the right direction with the tiny head growing out of an eye socket, though?

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/802 "2022-06-16T18:52:43Z")

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So close! Maybe actual photographs aren’t included in the dataset the learning algorithm pulls from.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/803 "2022-06-16T19:14:08Z")

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Or that trait just isn’t labeled. I think they use something like this:

[https://laion.ai/laion-400-open-dataset/](https://laion.ai/laion-400-open-dataset/)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/804 "2022-06-17T01:36:57Z")

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New feature added—symmetry. What it does is at some point in the rendering process mirrors half of the image. In horizontal symmetry it mirrors the left half, in vertical the top half, and in both you get four top right left quarters. The percentage 0 through 100 determines the point in the render it does the mirroring, the later the more identical. It doesn’t help the face problem unless it is situated directly on the mid-line, though.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/805 "2022-06-17T02:08:25Z")

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It shouldn’t be too hard for them to put the axis of symmetry through the center of mass of the primary feature on the image. That… probably still wouldn’t solve the face problem, because a face that’s tilted either in yaw or roll won’t be horizontally symmetric. But it might help.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/806 "2022-06-17T02:45:15Z")

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It is just a bandaid on the fact that the AI(s) can’t do good human faces. [But we know it is possible](https://this-person-does-not-exist.com/en). I’m sure within a few years somebody will train something that can do good artistic _and_ realistic faces (and bodies, and hands…)

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/807 "2022-06-17T02:57:00Z")

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That seems a lot better than the last time I tried it. They seem to have largely fixed the problem with eyeglasses.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/808 "2022-06-17T15:35:24Z")

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The AI generated art looks similar to some of the entries in this thread. The article says Carson Grubaugh entered text from C.S. Lewis’s book, and I assume he used other prompts to control the style of art generated. It looks like he had the same problems we did of keeping human figures steady enough to not look totally disfigured, but was able to properly use the context to justify the slight aberrations.

> **[Abolition Of Man, First Comic Book Entirely Drawn By A.I. Algorithm](https://bleedingcool.com/comics/abolition-of-man-first-comic-book-entirely-drawn-by-a-i-algorithm/)**
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> With news that Google has suspended a scientist after they tried to secure legal representation for the rights of a LaMDA artificial intelligence. And it

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/809 "2022-06-18T23:43:28Z")

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Lately I have been trying to come up with things considerably different than I have before. A seamonster attacking a Viking longboat popped into mind, but, as has been noted before, the AI doesn’t seem to think much in terms of non-humanoids.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/zaPDR0t.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/zaPDR0t.jpeg)

I then tried a satyr

[![](https://i.imgur.com/yK083al.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/yK083al.jpeg)

And a satyr parade.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/F8mG0Fw.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/F8mG0Fw.jpeg)

Minotaurs are pretty similar to satyrs

[![](https://i.imgur.com/47SWtdd.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/47SWtdd.jpeg)

But nymphs are all fucked up.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/O4Uhaxi.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/O4Uhaxi.jpeg)

It tries for some snakeyness for Medusa, but it does it badly. (Ironically that first one looks more like the krasue I was trying to get weeks ago than I ever got with krasue prompts.)

[![](https://i.imgur.com/UOw8iop.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/UOw8iop.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/810 "2022-06-18T23:44:25Z")

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So I went back to trying putting yurei in places. In a chapel. In a mosque. In a mountain lake. In space. It does a pretty fair job of understanding all of those requests.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/lXxe8hP.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/lXxe8hP.jpeg)

I put some in an onsen. It understood the need for nakedness even if it doesn’t draw it well. But it does an especially good job, imo, of drawing splashing water.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/YFzhSSu.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/YFzhSSu.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/811 "2022-06-19T09:16:52Z")

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Doesn’t do too badly on Chris Foss:  
[![](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/s7pHXqjHNykOJnVaaHr2/s7pHXqjHNykOJnVaaHr2.jpg?tr=w-1600,c-at_max) ](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/s7pHXqjHNykOJnVaaHr2/s7pHXqjHNykOJnVaaHr2.jpg?tr=w-1600,c-at_max)

[![](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/kUL4Nh7qHc4Q2DhdZwKF/kUL4Nh7qHc4Q2DhdZwKF.jpg?tr=w-1600,c-at_max) ](https://images.nightcafe.studio/jobs/kUL4Nh7qHc4Q2DhdZwKF/kUL4Nh7qHc4Q2DhdZwKF.jpg?tr=w-1600,c-at_max)

Not quite as geometric as the real Foss, but it got the idea. The second one could almost pass for a real book cover.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/812 "2022-06-21T00:02:09Z")

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The 3 likes for this sad clown has ironically pushed me to a thousand likes which is worth 80 credits. Woohoo!

> **[sad clown - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/xlClkVEVp04NbWaIrHBA)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/813 "2022-06-21T00:53:28Z")

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Sad clown my ass. That’s one of those evil forest clowns. And I should know because [the epidemic started](https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/oct/05/clown-sightings-south-carolina-alabama) only about 10 or 20 miles from me.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/814 "2022-06-21T01:09:23Z")

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Ha ha. In that case, you’ll love my realistic Krusty the Clown.

> **[A realistic Krusty the Clown - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/zcc3lUa1zbK4dks1pFQJ)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/815 "2022-06-21T04:25:09Z")

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Playing around with a setting that can generate something like a wall covered in posters.

Here is a Theodor von Holst | Rembrandt | Margaret Keane

[![](https://i.imgur.com/nFxcs2W.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/nFxcs2W.jpeg)

Here is a Robert Crumb | Kei Toume | Margaret Keane

[![](https://i.imgur.com/8oQJavn.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/8oQJavn.jpeg)

And here is a Tim Burton | Wes Anderson | Margaret Keane

[![](https://i.imgur.com/mSgRrZV.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/mSgRrZV.jpeg)

[![](https://i.imgur.com/4H5oIqu.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/4H5oIqu.jpeg)

These two work as another demonstration of differences between Imglarger and the Russian supersampler. The bottom one is upscaled in the Russian AI and if you zoom in on the guy right of center you will see that it invented for him an eye with iris, pupil, and even a bit of reflected light. In the upper one from Imglarger, the eye is a featureless black hole.

(I also trimmed the margins on the bottom one. The AI, of course, didn’t.)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/816 "2022-06-21T05:14:43Z")

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Did more experiments with the settings above, which are

Yurei parade | full-length wanted poster | tronie | hyperdetailed oil painting | (names of artists or other mods that you want to try)

And you can replace the word “yurei” with whatever you want to try. Zombies, Gibson girls, androids, whatever.

But one of the images produced with a vertical aspect ratio was really good (and nothing like the walls of posters) so I decided to use it as a start image in my main account. Same prompt, random seed, low noise and high image weight. Original was in 1 credit resolution but I went for 3 in the evolution. The result is one of my favorite images that I’ve produced, which I upsized to the max.

> **[A Night on the Town - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/LIXide7MgkBAQ6BtAtBK)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/817 "2022-06-21T23:14:28Z")

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If anyone wants to recreate something created anonymously in their main account I’ve had good results with simply:

1. copying the address to my browser with my main account
2. evolving (not duplicating)
3. dialing weighting original image to 100%
4. dialing down weighting noise to 0%
5. leaving everything else alone

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/818 "2022-06-22T01:51:51Z")

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Yeah, those new image weight and noise sliders are very useful. Would have been great to have back when I was searching for superresolution sites.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/819 "2022-06-22T03:57:18Z")

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Tonight this simple prompt

> **Summary**
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> Wanted poster | tronie | full-length portrait | hyperdetailed colored pencil drawing | kei toume | washi paper

Produced Moldman

[![](https://i.imgur.com/nbqN27C.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/nbqN27C.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/820 "2022-06-24T04:46:04Z")

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I’m always wanting some images to look realistic. Not like a pencil drawing or an oil painting, but a photograph.

I decided to go very simple.

Field of wildflowers | photograph

Gives reasonably decent results.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/vuCKvbL.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/vuCKvbL.jpeg)

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