# Digital art creator algorithm website **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** arts-crafts, ai\ **Created:** [April 1, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081 "2022-04-01T01:26:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/961 "2022-08-22T23:35:29Z")
I tried a couple through their web site [![](http://i.ompldr.pw/wukjbu.jpg) ](http://i.ompldr.pw/wukjbu.jpg) [![](http://i.ompldr.pw/wsxghd.jpg) ](http://i.ompldr.pw/wsxghd.jpg) Definitely experimentation is required to see the qualitative effect of not only engineering the prompt, but also messing with various parameters (ideally at the level of the actual Python code, because it’s not immediately clear how these are exposed in their interface) ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/962 "2022-08-23T00:10:37Z")
Yeah, I don’t get the new method yet. Why are some of my 9 images blurry? And where’s the dancing? > **[Tango with Evil where The Joker is dancing with Harley Quinn - AI Generated...](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/SufTcOp8k2lbl5BK3alY)** > > AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/963 "2022-08-23T00:16:26Z")
If the head was better, this would be great! > **[Donald Trump stealing a box of documents, photorealistic, detailed painting,...](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/EXnYt7gLC3uixD3UJCtl)** > > AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence. ETA: Better without the names > **[Donald Trump stealing a box of documents, photorealistic, detailed painting,...](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/yHbfSqQjnWKfLeRzEqMw)** > > AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence. ETA2: I published the 2nd one and it was immediately reported. I can’t imagine why. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/964 "2022-08-23T00:52:05Z")
MidJourney also (coincidentally? No?) dropped a new Beta model today. Naturally, I had to try my standard test: Eldritch Cheerleader Carwash. [![](https://mj-gallery.com/7b2a2df0-a1bc-473d-8c37-998ebf7340b4/grid_0.png) ](https://mj-gallery.com/7b2a2df0-a1bc-473d-8c37-998ebf7340b4/grid_0.png) I feel like the dog that caught the car. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/965 "2022-08-23T00:56:13Z")
There is some censorship filter but I do not have time right now to figure out what it thinks it is doing. [![](http://i.ompldr.pw/jipvn.png) ](http://i.ompldr.pw/jipvn.png) [![](http://i.ompldr.pw/hyorm.png) ](http://i.ompldr.pw/hyorm.png) [![](http://i.ompldr.pw/oykrjx.png) ](http://i.ompldr.pw/oykrjx.png) ---
**Author:** ![motu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/motu/32/259_2.png) [@motu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/motu)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/966 "2022-08-23T00:59:00Z")
> **[angry goat demon linotype - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/MFKxJTrjKU9LPVjcSnie)** > > AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/967 "2022-08-23T01:13:50Z")
I’m not sure I want to know HOW she’s cleaning the car… ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/968 "2022-08-23T04:48:18Z")
The new system doesn’t understand the meaning of prompts as well as some, you’ll need to go simpler. When it does understand the output can be pretty awesome, though: > **[Robot Elvis by Mark Ryden 2 - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/c3LFKOocVV2OpeuRxYVM)** > > AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence. > **[Robot Elvis by Mark Ryden - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/XmPj0cGrq96KXrSV0mus)** > > AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence. > **[Zombies portrait by annie leibovitz - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/E1chjc5NHh33bZRKzlRE)** > > AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence. Boring failures include giant crabs not attacking a NASCAR race: > **[Giant crabs attacking a NASCAR race - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/MelxWgrcAzsrCPg8rMws)** > > AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence. And Godzilla not eating Donald Trump (I do love the crude drawing of Godzilla giving another kaiju a bouquet of greenery, though.) > **[Godzilla eating Donald Trump - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/IE8vRFwc76tRnIJnpO5q)** > > AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence. Fun failures include cats holding signs that do not say “a cat holding a sign” > **[A cat holding a sign that says "A cat holding a sign" - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/0TgkP6J7jLKV8GlxPiPI)** > > AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence. And “who dat is?” (Who could complain about “who drat?” and “whch dis”? > **[A cat holding a sign that says "Who dat is?" - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/vdniTykEMYolxZXI7LOo)** > > AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence. (“by Mark Ryden” is an **excellent** prompt suffix in the new system.) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/969 "2022-08-23T04:58:06Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Naturally, I had to try my standard test: Eldritch Cheerleader Carwash. See some eldritch cheerleaders here (along with a couple of Mark Ryden prompts) [https://creator.nightcafe.studio/u/IEAf6ufciDe5z9lrDkACHE6Q1PX2](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/u/IEAf6ufciDe5z9lrDkACHE6Q1PX2) ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/970 "2022-08-23T05:04:52Z")
Nothing shows up. Just says no creations yet. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/971 "2022-08-23T05:51:37Z")
Oops, never mind, I didn’t share them. The cheerleader carwash one did have cheerleders and cars, but nothing eldrich. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/972 "2022-08-23T13:39:44Z")
50 steps (probably worth increasing to 100), guidance scale = 12.7 [![](http://i.ompldr.pw/wbjhu.png) ](http://i.ompldr.pw/wbjhu.png) ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/973 "2022-08-23T14:32:32Z")
If you are reading anything political into this one, it’s just in your head, I’m sure. > **["Mine", "Mine"..."Mine" - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/8wRhOCKO8zT3W40fL7rD)** > > AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence. ETA: OMG, this one got reported to. People have too much time on their hands. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/974 "2022-08-23T16:09:44Z")
I have to admit, I’m really enjoying the results of this goofy algorithm sometimes, but I feel it kind of spoils us. It’s much more like someone on Twitter described as “Slot Machine Art”. You just pull the little lever and see what you get. The old method of Artistic and Coherent evolution seems like it came up with much more original type stuff. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/975 "2022-08-23T16:15:09Z")
What you could do is take the output of an “artistic evolution”, or your own original sketch, and evolve it using the diffuser. Generating from random noise is not the only option. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/976 "2022-08-23T17:34:48Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > The old method of Artistic and Coherent evolution seems like it came up with much more original type stuff. Same discussion/debate is going on at MidJourney. As one person put it, “The new beta creates stock photos, the old version created art”. I don’t 100% _agree_ with that but I get what they were getting at. Previous works had more (virtual) creativity versus just plugging a couple concepts together. Other people noticed that the prompts worked differently and maybe a good deal of it was just relearning the system. Or running two systems concurrently and having the user decide which way they wanted it interpreted/rendered, ---
**Author:** ![motu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/motu/32/259_2.png) [@motu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/motu)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/977 "2022-08-23T19:24:50Z")
I’m enjoying the original avatars I’m making ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/978 "2022-08-23T23:37:11Z")
Can’t believe I have never perused this thread. Really amazing. Maybe Cecil should revive the Threadspotting feature…. Obviously some Dopers have spent many hours on the site. How much time did it take to learn the basics? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/979 "2022-08-23T23:53:32Z")
Do you know how to type words? You’re up to speed. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/980 "2022-08-24T05:30:16Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Same discussion/debate is going on at MidJourney. As one person put it, “The new beta creates stock photos, the old version created art”. I don’t 100% _agree_ with that but I get what they were getting at. Previous works had more (virtual) creativity versus just plugging a couple concepts together. Other people noticed that the prompts worked differently and maybe a good deal of it was just relearning the system. Or running two systems concurrently and having the user decide which way they wanted it interpreted/rendered, There were already two vastly different systems with vastly different understandings of prompts and types of images generated—this is just a third. Having to learn it all over from scratch again is just a natural consequence of vastly complicated self-teaching AIs. _Nobody_ knows the rules without trial and error, even the programmers. Each of the three systems have things that they do pretty well and things that they are mind-blowingly terrible at. I’ve tried plugging a few of my past complex prompts for the “coherent” system into “stable” and got vastly different results, some of which I quite like. The new system has mostly solved facial symmetry (in some cases it is obviously mirroring select parts of images for faces and bodies, but far from always) but unfortunately is very, very bad at hands. One prompt I’ve been playing with in the new system is “Matilda and Leon from the Professional by Mark Ryden”. First is the “artistic” AI (scaled to fit the other images), next is “coherent”. Both are, as you can see, total crap. Next are two from the new “stable” AI. Do they look anything like Natalie Portman and Jean Reno? No, they do not. But they _are_ interesting. (I generated a couple of dozen, portrait and landscape, and they are _all_ over the place.) Next up is the same prompt but with da Vinci and Rembrandt instead of Ryden. Those, I think, did a _really_ good job—I could hardly ask for better. [![](https://i.imgur.com/SAnLGkA.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/SAnLGkA.jpeg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081.md?page=48) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081.md?page=50)