# Digital art creator algorithm website

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** arts-crafts, ai\
**Created:** [April 1, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081 "2022-04-01T01:26:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1021 "2022-09-01T20:40:36Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Here you go.

That link goes to your picture, but it looks like this is your new thread:

> [@AI-generated images and artistic endeavor](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ai-generated-images-and-artistic-endeavor/970718):
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> Continuing the discussion from [Digital art creator algorithm website](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081): Spinning this off from the image-sharing thread to avoid a hijack, but also because it’s interesting. Plenty of folks are pointing out that photography was also heralded as the the beginning of the end for artistic endeavors, and it was years before it was widely considered anything even approaching art. From my perspective, there are two distinct areas of concern at play here. The general feeling that using tools to g…

I’ll have to see if I can get something like that running locally. Occasionally I get images like this:  
[![](https://i.imgur.com/0g6wZg2.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/0g6wZg2.png)

The right half is _fantastic_, and exactly what I wanted. The left half is… I dunno what happened there. But I’d definitely like to crop it off and regenerate that part.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1022 "2022-09-01T21:11:12Z")

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> [@Dr.Strangelove](#):
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> That link goes to your picture, but it looks like this is your new thread:

Woops! Thanks for the fix.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1023 "2022-09-02T00:50:35Z")

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Some times in stable diffusion it tries to render two angles of the same subject in one frame, which is interesting. It is almost like it has an idea of objects in 3D.

[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/0nSAaJ0.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/x7uaXul)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1024 "2022-09-02T00:57:08Z")

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One article about Dalle-2 had some excellent images generated with “A hybrid between Spongebob SquarePants and Godzilla, painted by William-Adolphe Bouguereau”. So far I haven’t quite acheived greatness in stable diffusion. (Spoilered for NSFW content)

[Imgur: The magic of the Internet](https://imgur.com/a/dwQTqie)

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1025 "2022-09-02T03:01:13Z")

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[That’s a challenging wank](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrty2XITqTE).

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1026 "2022-09-05T01:23:33Z")

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One “zany” prompt I’ve tried in different sytems is “Alf and Yoda eating lobster”. Both Craiyon and Min-Dalle clearly know who Alf is and what he looks like (even though they do a pretty terrible job of drawing him).

[![](https://i.imgur.com/RUMK8z6.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/RUMK8z6.jpeg)

Stable Diffusion, on the other hand, is very confused. It tends to render (when I renders “him” at all) some sort of brown anthropomorphic dog or Furry, even when I specify “Alf from the TV series Alf (1986)”. The attempts tend to be incredibly awesome, though.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/H09jshL.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/H09jshL.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1027 "2022-09-05T01:54:45Z")

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I’m thinking Stable would be very good for creating Vargas Girls. When it doesn’t add extra parts, that is.

> **[Jayne Mansfield Pin-Up - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/QxvZvd1IubXyhdEVtsrR)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1028 "2022-09-05T04:46:01Z")

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Once upon a time we were trying to get Nightcafe to draw penanggalan. I can’t find the post because there’s too many ways to spell penanggalan but I did get some pretty rockin’ pictures out of MidJourney. I had to describe what it was though as it also wasn’t familiar with the word.

Spoiler tagged just because it IS a floating head with gross stuff

> **Floating Head Vampire Woman Picture Links Within**
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> [https://mj-gallery.com/dfdb8658-1857-4b38-b056-29ef2fb8206e/grid\_0.png](https://mj-gallery.com/dfdb8658-1857-4b38-b056-29ef2fb8206e/grid_0.png)  
> [https://mj-gallery.com/3efc4c41-fe08-4b2c-8d0e-ff4338801ca1/grid\_0.png](https://mj-gallery.com/3efc4c41-fe08-4b2c-8d0e-ff4338801ca1/grid_0.png)

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1029 "2022-09-08T02:50:35Z")

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It seems they have update the Stable algorithm to include a start image. I’ve been messing with it and I’ve come up with a few decent results, but nothing really predictable yet. I’m not sure I really get how it fits in to the final product. Very hit or miss for me so far.

> **[Paul Rudd as a Viking Warrior v2 - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/nvASkxDOl82jsQj6Yjz6)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

> **[What a Handsome Guy; cel-shaded, ink drawing, retouched, DSLR, serene - AI...](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/ppVKydm952S2GHkcK9fM)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1030 "2022-09-09T00:34:28Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Once upon a time we were trying to get Nightcafe to draw penanggalan. I can’t find the post because there’s too many ways to spell penanggalan

It was me attempting, using “karsue”. I tried it in stqlable diffusion, to total failure.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1031 "2022-09-09T00:36:49Z")

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Months ago in “coherent” I tried a prompt for a Muppet family portrait. The results were mostly mangled. I recently tried the same prompt in “stable” and the output was much more interesting, with a mix of decently made Muppets and people (including John Travolta and a giant-eared Dan Rather). Then I tried for puppet family portraits. Those turned out to be _really_ freaky, generating weird aliens and creatures that look pretty much nothing like puppets. (I also tried for awkward family portraits, but—while definitely awkward—they don’t rise to the level of awesomeness from the puppets.)

These are a cherry-picked mix of results from all three prompts

[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/79otZAD.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/7BoTYIq)

_x_ family portrait | tronie | hyperdetailed colored pencil drawing | Dan Witz | Margaret Keane | Zdzisław Beksiński | Dungeons and Dragons guidebook | postcard

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1032 "2022-09-09T01:36:51Z")

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Once again, thanks for sharing some intriguing efforts. Will have to try it.

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1033 "2022-09-09T02:46:39Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> It seems they have update the Stable algorithm to include a start image.

Hearing that I had to give it a try. Used a starter image that was generated also using Stable and using the same prompt, the results were similar, but just different enough that I want to try multiple generations of it. Will need to wait for more points to build up.

[https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/AWmBkMb4oOu15TDQvR3n](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/AWmBkMb4oOu15TDQvR3n)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1034 "2022-09-10T00:34:06Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> It seems they have update the Stable algorithm to include a start image.

I just tried to see if it would extend/repair images in the method shown in that Dalle-2 manual. It does not. Completely unrelated additions.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1035 "2022-09-10T00:46:58Z")

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Main image is safe but there is at least one in the group that isn’t exactly SFW.

> **[Elvira Mistress of the Dark as a Vargas Girl - AI Generated Artwork](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/NhR4Ws0VuTCr6LFXcffw)**
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> AI Art Generator App. ✅ Fast ✅ Free ✅ Easy. Create amazing artworks using artificial intelligence.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1036 "2022-09-10T01:06:41Z")

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Are you talking about this?

> **[r/StableDiffusion - Inpainting + Stable Diffusion v1.5 on NightCafe](https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/x9hqc0/inpainting_stable_diffusion_v15_on_nightcafe/)**
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> 10 votes and 1 comment so far on Reddit

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1037 "2022-09-10T01:17:33Z")

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Was there something you did to get the Marilyn-Monroe-Seven-Year-Itch effect, or was that just the AI’s interpretation of what goddesses look like? And what are the Asian characters in the prompt?

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1038 "2022-09-10T01:23:30Z")

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I mean like in post 1080, but manually using the method used in that Dall-E guide PDF. I wanted to extend badly framed images with matching content, but it failed spectacularly.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1039 "2022-09-10T01:40:41Z")

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I am not a comics expert, but there is a [Wiki article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sh%C5%8Djo_manga) describing “少女漫画” as girls’ comics, with distinctive visual styles influenced by illustrations accompanying “flowery and emotional” novels for girls and sentimental lyrical painting influenced by Art Nouveau and Japanese-style paintings. So you are not going to get classical representations of Artemis.

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1040 "2022-09-10T02:28:17Z")

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Yes, the Japanese is “Shojo Manga” or girls comics. “Clamp” is also a famous girl’s comics artist (actually a group of artists) that I thought might be famous enough to be in their training data. Other times I’ve tried a Japanese prompt I got vaguely oriental nonsense, so I think the training data is mostly in English. I’ve liked what this prompt has given me, it does seem to be in the right style.

“young goddess in a dress of leaves” is inspired by an illustration from a children’s book I remember from long ago. Don’t remember anything else about that book, just that one image. Might have been a fairy instead of goddess.

The seven year itch effect is something it came up with on it’s own. [Others](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/kW4QohO8EdpOMKLkNB03) [from](https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/XUMI7aoQnMOKEx3mneHb) the same prompt were more modestly dressed, but I liked how that one turned out best.

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