# Digital art creator algorithm website

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** arts-crafts, ai\
**Created:** [April 1, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081 "2022-04-01T01:26:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1282 "2023-04-04T13:39:49Z")

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There’s just a button to press to report, but nowhere to type a description of the problem in; I tried.

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**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1283 "2023-04-04T13:43:10Z")

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Well you probably will need to go above and beyond to call this to their attention. Aside from that all we can do is point and laugh and move on. It might be due to bad training, with an over-representation of sources that happened to use the slang sense of the term. It could be the result of a long list of strings somebody compiled to never accept under any circumstances that nobody examined in detail.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1284 "2023-04-04T13:49:59Z")

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> [@Ponderoid](#):
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> I have seen “John Hancock” used more than once as slang for a man’s penis for many decades now

While I’m familiar with the idea in theory, I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say in in actual conversation. More importantly, I very much doubt there’s a ton of internet images of penises tagged as “John Hancock” that the AI would interpret it as that versus pictures of signatures or buildings or Founding Fathers or insurance companies. Feels like protecting against a threat that doesn’t reasonably exist.

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**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1285 "2023-04-04T14:06:57Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say in in actual conversation.

Neither have I. And I agree with everything else you said. I can’t think of any other reason why they’re censoring the string except due to ham-fisted overabundance of caution. They probably will fix this if the feedback gets seen by somebody with a brain.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1286 "2023-04-04T14:56:49Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> If you don’t mind a bomb with handlebars like a motor cycle

Nice! With a few more upgrades we’ll have him falling out the bomber bay doors yet.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1287 "2023-04-04T14:58:30Z")

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> [@Ponderoid](#):
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> I’m not sure if I’m being wooshed here. I have seen “John Hancock” used more than once as slang for a man’s penis for many decades now.

I’ve only heard it as slang for one’s signature. Since his is so prominent on the Declaration of Independence.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1288 "2023-04-04T15:02:00Z")

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Now that I’m thinking about it, I’ve only heard “John Thomas” as slang for the penis. Don’t think I’ve ever heard John Hancock used that way.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1289 "2023-04-04T15:02:43Z")

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Can any of these sites create a detailed and sharp Medieval City Map in the classic style. [Like this](https://earthlymission.com/maps-of-medieval-cities/#&gid=1&pid=2):

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1290 "2023-04-04T15:43:54Z")

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From Midjourney: _Antique street map of medieval city, colorful, top-down perspective, fine detail, --ar 3:2 --v 5_

[![](https://i.imgur.com/Qoh92hw.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/Qoh92hw.png)  
[![](https://i.imgur.com/GNWD2LS.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/GNWD2LS.png)  
[![](https://i.imgur.com/uQ9bGvY.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/uQ9bGvY.png)  
[![](https://i.imgur.com/aPQFE7G.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/aPQFE7G.png)

Note that none of the AIs will make legible text in context nor produce an old, accurate, map for an existing location.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1291 "2023-04-04T15:44:57Z")

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Those are great thank you.  
Especially for including the keyword you used.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1292 "2023-04-06T00:57:14Z")

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Here is a site that gives you a handful of free credits a day and lets you play with some of the advanced SD extensions.

> **[Free AI Art Generator, AI Art Maker | Stable Diffusion Online](https://dreamlike.art/create)**
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> Create stunning AI Art in seconds with Stable Diffusion. Upscale your images, create variations, fix faces, share your art, and more.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1293 "2023-04-06T01:04:27Z")

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A while back I tried generating “sugar skull” face painting in SD with underwhelming results. I recently discovered that “calavera” gives much better results. And here is a calavera image using the Kandinsky model (available at the above-mentioned site):

[![](https://i.postimg.cc/JzXzWTzf/Calavera-girl-Medieval-bestiary-wide-shot-190-1261213431-CUDTGz-By-Tfpw-model-Name-model-Version.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/JzXzWTzf/Calavera-girl-Medieval-bestiary-wide-shot-190-1261213431-CUDTGz-By-Tfpw-model-Name-model-Version.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1294 "2023-04-07T01:32:14Z")

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Is it just me or has Night Cafe been incredibly unstable lately? I suppose it’s mostly around peak times, but I’m a subscriber. I’d like to think my money goes to ironing shit like this out.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1295 "2023-04-07T03:30:42Z")

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What do you mean by unstable? I know sometimes newly generated images don’t want to load, but I haven’t been getting crashes or anything.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1296 "2023-04-07T03:40:26Z")

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I get non-loading pages quite frequently. Sometimes it’s a hiccup in a rendering or sometimes I can’t get to the site at all. That was my issue when I posted and it’s a coming and going issue. Although, I suspect it normally happens when changes to the site are in the works. I’ve just discovered some new presets since they added SDXL.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1297 "2023-04-07T03:48:26Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I’ve just discovered some new presets since they added SDXL.

Cool, I hadn’t noticed those. I notice that they are just more prompt presets, though. They should add extended models like Playgroundai and the site I linked yesterday have.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1298 "2023-04-07T03:50:28Z")

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SDXL must be more resource-hungry than earlier versions. They charge much more for renders.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1299 "2023-04-07T04:40:53Z")

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Have you tried “la catrina” ? (may be different from skull you want)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1300 "2023-04-07T05:54:29Z")

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Just tried it, with some decent results. What I was looking for is something like this

> **[Deadly Class “Stigmata Martyr” Review- Maria, Maria](https://fanfest.com/deadly-class-stigmata-martyr-review/)**
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> After spending a weekend in Las Vegas filled with acid, trippy clowns, murder, Ice-T slot machines, and more murder it’s safe to assume that one would need some time to decompress. A vacation from the vacation if you will, but when you attend murder...

And this

> **[Chimi (Maya and the Three)](https://poohadventures.fandom.com/wiki/Chimi_(Maya_and_the_Three))**
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> Chimi is a archer from the Jungle Land and is one of the main protagonists in Maya and the Three.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-art-creator-algorithm-website/962081/1301 "2023-04-07T21:54:38Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> And here is a calavera image using the Kandinsky model (available at the above-mentioned site):

I’ve just noticed that Kandinsky isn’t a extension/lora on SD like I had assumed but a complete independent algorithm. (Seems to be created by Russians.)

> **[ai-forever/Kandinsky\_2.1 · Hugging Face](https://huggingface.co/ai-forever/Kandinsky_2.1)**
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> We’re on a journey to advance and democratize artificial intelligence through open source and open science.

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