# Digital SLR Cameras? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 26, 2002, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-slr-cameras/133969 "2002-10-26T10:31:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boo_Boo_Foo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2002, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-slr-cameras/133969/1 "2002-10-26T10:31:42Z")
Hi fellow posters… Yours truly is about to become a daddy for the first time shortly - which is no big deal, however it **is all the excuse** necessary to finally purchase a top flight digital SLR camera. 😉 I’m really keen on any advice or words of wisdom my fellow photographers might have. For what it’s worth, I have a nice collection of lenses and filters for my film based Olympus SLR and I was real keen on making further use of them if you know what I mean. The model I’m looking at currently is a NIKON D100 but obviously I’m real interested in anything all of you might have to offer. Feel free to get as technical as you’d like! I just love learning! Thanks for reading… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2002, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-slr-cameras/133969/2 "2002-10-26T11:36:00Z")
I’m going to subscribe to his thread, because I’ve never heard of such a thing. The only viewfinders I’ve ever seen on digital cameras are either cheap ones that are a whole separate lens which don’t give you the cmera lens view, or small TV monitors that take the image off the sensors behind the lens. The SLR image, IIRC, has a mirror in place that directs the lens image to the viewfinder rather than the film. When the shot is taken, the mirror is moved out of the path. I don’t think you want this setup in a digital camera, because you can’t view the electronic image with it. Therefor you can’t electronically manipulate the image in advance to improve your picture quality. I think you are really looking for a camera with a particular kind of lens mount. But I am NOT an expert with photo stuff, and I could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2002, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-slr-cameras/133969/3 "2002-10-26T13:59:56Z")
Go here [http://www.dpreview.com/](http://www.dpreview.com/) You will want one of these 6 or **11** megapixel beasts! > **[Canon EOS-1Ds vs. EOS-D60](https://www.dpreview.com/articles/4461796931/eos1dsvseosd60)** > > Dave > over at Imaging Resource has just posted a side-by-side comparison of > the eleven megapixel EOS-1Ds and the six megapixel EOS-D60 posing the > question "How much difference does it make?" (the additional > five megapixels). Dave is lucky... > [@](#): > > Is the extra effort worth it? Oh baby, and how. EOS-1Ds photographs are just dripping with detail, the sort of detail that appears equally crisp and fine in 5 x 7, 8 x 10 and 12 x 18 inch enlargements. At its best, the preproduction EOS-1Ds body in hand here generates photos that match or exceed the level of clarity of the best 6x6 Hasselblad and Mamiya 6x7 prints I’ve ever made. Yes, this is yet another digital vs film comparison. But it’s not the sort of silly digital-to-scanned-film matchup that pervades photographic publications these days; I mean a real comparison, Mano a Mano, of the best each format has to offer ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@Turbo\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turbo_Dog)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2002, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-slr-cameras/133969/4 "2002-10-26T14:22:26Z")
A co-worker has a Canan D30 digital SLR, and the quality of the pics it takes is amazing. He loves it and can’t find anything bad to say about it. The professional photographers at work have some 1D’s, and if there is a difference in the pic quality between the two, I sure can’t see it. He paid just under 3K for the D30. Amazing devices to be sure. That’s about the extent of my knowledge on the topic. ---
**Author:** ![scotth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@scotth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotth)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2002, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-slr-cameras/133969/5 "2002-10-26T14:35:49Z")
One of my best friends is a professional photographer and makes his living for the most part doing motocross photography, much of it for magazines. He just went digital and bought the new high end Fuji camera. It was cheaper than the Canon. The camera does an amazing job. In its high res mode (about 12 Mp), it approaches medium format film in its ability to capture detail. Color and contrast are really excellent as well. We sent some 10 shots to an 8x10 kodak dye sub printer… amazing. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2002, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-slr-cameras/133969/6 "2002-10-27T05:58:41Z")
You do realize Olympus lenses don’t work on the Nikon D100 (or any other digital SLR currently available)? Another thing to note is that the sensor used on most digital SLR cameras are smaller than 35mm film. Typically the ratio is about 1.6, so a 24mm lens on a digital SLR will be equivalent to (i.e. will capture the same area as) 35mm lens with film. This is great if you like telephoto lenses. If you like wide-angle shots, you may have to buy additional ultra-wide angle lenses. There is one exception, the Contax N, which has a full-frame imaging sensor. Unfortunately it costs $7000. Don’t forget to budget for the memory card. Those high-end cameras generate big files (around 3MB per shot at highest quality setting). The 1GB MicroDrive might be a good choice. It’s not a memory chip but a tiny hard drive. It consumes more power than memory, but it’s big and fast. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2002, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-slr-cameras/133969/7 "2002-10-27T06:13:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by scr4 \* > \*\*Don’t forget to budget for the memory card. Those high-end cameras generate big files (around 3MB per shot at highest quality setting). The 1GB MicroDrive might be a good choice. It’s not a memory chip but a tiny hard drive. It consumes more power than memory, but it’s big and fast. \*\* 1 gig compact flash cards are now available and 2 gig units are just around the corner. [http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0112/03.flash.php](http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0112/03.flash.php) > [@](#): > > Lexar Media Inc. has begun shipment of their 1 gigabyte CompactFlash Type II card. The 16X 1GB Professional Series card clocks at a sustained speed of 2.4 MB per second and has a suggested list price of $1,199. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2002, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-slr-cameras/133969/8 "2002-10-27T07:50:48Z")
Hmm, I guess I was a bit out of date. MicroDrive is still more cost-effective though. A 1-GB MicroDrive currently sells for about $300, slightly less than a 512MB flash memory. Flash memory has lower power consumption and is probably more durable since there are no moving parts. ---
**Author:** ![Gunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gunslinger)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2002, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-slr-cameras/133969/9 "2002-10-27T19:58:45Z")
**yojimboguy** : Yep, digital SLRs, with a little preview screen on the back, just like lesser digicams. In fact, I have a [Nikon D1](http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D1/D1A.HTM) sitting on my kitchen table right now. Having used both the D1 and the Canon D30/60 (the former for work as a newspaper photographer, the latter at school for the school newspaper), I prefer the Nikon because it seems a bit quicker to autofocus, and other minor little things like that If only I could afford one for myself… ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2002, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-slr-cameras/133969/10 "2002-10-28T02:03:17Z")
While the MicroDrives are slightly better cost/meg, they still have a nasty tendency to fail suddenly, and taking all the shots on the disk with them. They also use more power, reducing battery life. I’m very interested in the Canon since I have a Canon Elan II and several lenses. Not yet, but someday soon I’ll move to the digital SLR. Right now I have an Olympus C-720 which does view through the lens, actually. The viewfinder is a small screen that shows the image through the lens. Waiting till the price drops some more… ---
**Author:** ![Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boo_Boo_Foo)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2002, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-slr-cameras/133969/11 "2002-10-28T05:36:52Z")
My understanding is that SLR standard was precisely that - a standard at both the film format level, and also at the lens interchangeability level too. I was given to understanding that all SLR lenses were interchangeable - on both film chassis and digital chassis. Is this not the case? ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2002, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/digital-slr-cameras/133969/12 "2002-10-28T12:15:14Z")
No, each camera manufacturer has its own lens mount. If you have an Olympus camera, you can only use an Olympus lens. Or an Olympus-compatible lens made by third-party companies (Sigma, Tokina, etc.). Also, some companies have made changes to their lens mount over the years to add functionality. An autofocus camera needs a lens with a built-in motor or some sort of gear mechanism, and the lens mount for such a lens needs electrical contacts and/or a drive shaft connection. Same with aperture control. So the manual-focus Canon lens mount is completely different from the Canon EOS autofocus lens mount. Nikon has kept the same mount and added the extra features to it, but you still have limitations if you use an old lens on a new body. The Nikon D100 doesn’t even do auto-exposure when used with a manual-focus Nikon lens. (The D1x does.) By the way, FUJI doesn’t have its own line of lenses, so their digital SLRs have Nikon lens mounts. I believe Kodak did/does the same. The Canon digital SLRs obviously use Canon EOS series lenses.