# Dilbert (Jan 10, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [January 10, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984 "2023-01-10T18:14:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/101 "2023-02-24T13:07:48Z")
Yeah, that post confused me too. It’s in no way any kind of counterexample. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/102 "2023-02-24T13:59:28Z")
> [@colinfred](#): > > The other guy was about to give a nuanced argument and was shut down. No he wasn’t. He was starting to say, “All lives matter”. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/103 "2023-02-24T14:05:29Z")
> [@colinfred](#): > > The way you’ve linked it, you seem to think it’s a counterexample to RickJay’s claim. It isn’t, it’s an attack on the left, the Catbert character representing a leftist who is unwilling to have any kind of discussion. Yeah, this cartoon is unambiguously attacking the left. ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/104 "2023-02-24T14:14:42Z")
Thus showing you are the “Catbert” He had already answsered the question “Do black lives matter?” with “Of course” “All lives matter” was likely not going to be the full answer to the second question. Chances are it would have been something like “all lives matter, including black ones. This is an obvious fact, there have been some problems with the BLM movement too though such as…” ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/105 "2023-02-24T14:15:44Z")
> [@colinfred](#): > > It isn’t, it’s an attack on the left, the Catbert character representing a leftist who is unwilling to have any kind of discussion. In effect Catbert’s used there to project that rejecting the “ALL lives matter” argument is itself intolerance and that “talk more about how black lives matter” is some sort of trick to trip people over. Notice that the outburst comes immediately upon hearing the word “all”. Catbert’s being portrayed as an intolerant PC type who does not want to even _hear_ the phrase never mind if there’s an elaboration. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/106 "2023-02-24T14:19:43Z")
Exactly. That cartoon definitely attacks some caricature of what Adams thinks a PC-type is. It definitely doesn’t attack the right or Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/107 "2023-02-24T14:24:40Z")
> [@colinfred](#): > > “All lives matter” was not going to be the full answer to the second question. Sorry to be the Catbert here but, no, “All lives matter” was indeed the full answer. The answer implies that Black lives are no more at risk than non-black lives and it’s morally wrong to single black lives out in the context of police violence. So, yes, I’m the Catbert except that I wouldn’t have asked about BLM in a job interview just to ID racists. I have been involved in hiring as a union panel rep and discussion of politics would not have occurred in an interview. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/108 "2023-02-24T14:29:43Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Sorry to be the Catbert here but, no, “All lives matter” was indeed the full answer. And even if there were an elaboration, leading with that, which everybody understands has the meaning indicated, renders everything after “matter” a rationalization. The strip, though, portrays the person using the phrase as being the poor sincere victim of a hostile trap. > [@74westy](#): > > I have been involved in hiring as a union panel rep and discussion of politics would not have occurred in an interview. Oh, yeah, that, too. Contrary to what Adams or his compatriots apparently believe. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/109 "2023-02-24T16:12:43Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Exactly. That cartoon definitely attacks some caricature of what Adams thinks a PC-type is. It definitely doesn’t attack the right or Republicans. Perhaps you are not aware of what [“All lives matter”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Lives_Matter) means. _ **All Lives Matter** is a slogan that is associated with opposition to and was created in response to the [Black Lives Matter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter) movement.[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Lives_Matter#cite_note-1)[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Lives_Matter#cite_note-2)[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Lives_Matter#cite_note-3) The slogan “argue[s] [that] all lives are equal because we are all human beings.”[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Lives_Matter#cite_note-4) The All Lives Matter slogan is typically associated with [conservative](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism) views, and a rejection of the ideas supported by proponents of the Black Lives Matter movement, which emerged in response to [police brutality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality) and [ethnic violence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_violence).[[5]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Lives_Matter#cite_note-5)_ ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/110 "2023-02-24T16:16:11Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Perhaps you are not aware of what [“All lives matter”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Lives_Matter) means. I doubt Adam’s agrees with that meaning. The dig is at the “PC” (evil) cat. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/111 "2023-02-24T16:20:42Z")
The interviewee was going to go into the usual spiel how all lives matter (the typical right-wing and self-described centrist, missing-the-point explanation that Adams would be a fan of) and the evil HR rep cut him off and removed him from consideration. How is this Adams beating on righties or Republicans? ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/112 "2023-02-24T18:14:18Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Some context around that: So it’s about a 4chan catch phrase? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/113 "2023-02-25T00:32:46Z")
One down. > **[We are dropping the Dilbert comic strip because of creator Scott Adams’...](https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/02/we-are-dropping-the-dilbert-comic-strip-because-of-creator-scott-adams-racist-rant-letter-from-the-editor.html)** > > this is a decision based on the principles of this news organization and the community we serve. We are not a home for those who espouse racism. We certainly do not want to provide them with financial support. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/114 "2023-02-25T00:41:25Z")
Actually, no other announcements yet, but from that notice it looks like several down: > We are part of Advance Local, and the leaders in all Advance Local newsrooms independently have made the same decision we did to stop running the strip. That includes newspapers in Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Alabama, Massachusetts and Oregon. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/115 "2023-02-25T11:36:15Z")
GoComics has dropped him. That is, Classic Dilbert was on their site yesterday and is missing today. It’s too bad – I read a bunch of comics there, including Classic Dilbert, and I was looking forward to not reading it going forward as the tiniest protest possible, but the woke mob made that decision for me! I can’t even boycott things before they are already canceled! Anyway, I’m happy to see he’s getting some push back, but I’m sure he’ll end up on Fox News or something worse. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/116 "2023-02-25T12:02:44Z")
My local paper also announced today they dropped Dilbert specifically because of the video he posted. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/117 "2023-02-25T23:48:42Z")
Dropped by The Oregonian for pretty much the same reason. Comes with a good explanation of the difference between “cancelling” and editing. [Letter from the Editor: Why we are no longer running the comic strip ‘Dilbert’ - oregonlive.com](https://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/2023/02/letter-from-the-editor-why-we-are-no-longer-running-the-comic-strip-dilbert.html?fbclid=IwAR0MCCPpGaHSiW63mpJHFH089QsKAoFyJHObbgIbrPwh_M5hMGFRZHbEfWQ) ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2023, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/118 "2023-02-26T02:31:17Z")
[And the Boston Globe](https://dankennedy.net/tag/gannett/). As well as the entire Gannett chain. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2023, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/119 "2023-02-26T04:52:20Z")
And the Washington Post. They apologized that some editions had already been printed before they could remove the strip. Sections in Sunday papers are often printed early in the week (like travel or entertainment or books), since they’re not time-sensitive. I expect to see it still in the Sunday paper. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984/120 "2023-02-26T15:21:54Z")
The Spokesman Review (Spokane, WA) has also dropped Dilbert. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dilbert-jan-10-2023/977984.md?page=7)