# Dimples in Wine Bottles

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 8, 2005, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dimples-in-wine-bottles/334591 "2005-12-08T00:33:49Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dimples-in-wine-bottles/334591/1 "2005-12-08T00:33:49Z")

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A simple question: what is the purpose the the “dimple” often found in the bottom of wine bottles?

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dimples-in-wine-bottles/334591/2 "2005-12-08T00:35:03Z")

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To make it look like you’re getting more wine than you really are. 😃

I think that **may** actually be it, no fooling…

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dimples-in-wine-bottles/334591/3 "2005-12-08T00:36:35Z")

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Unca Cecil addresses the purpose of the [dimple](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a990305b.html), properly called a _punt_.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dimples-in-wine-bottles/334591/4 "2005-12-08T00:56:21Z")

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I always thought the aim was to make the bottle more stable when standing on the “punt” end.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dimples-in-wine-bottles/334591/5 "2005-12-08T18:11:14Z")

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> [@Little Plastic Ninja](#):
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> To make it look like you’re getting more wine than you really are. 😃
> 
> I think that **may** actually be it, no fooling…

Sure, because a 750ml bottle with a punt holds less than a 750ml bottle without a punt.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dimples-in-wine-bottles/334591/6 "2005-12-08T18:29:06Z")

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It’s also called a kick or a kick up, and Cecil’s answer is correct (of course.)

It might have served a purpose at one time, but today is really just a marketing decision.  
Most people expect a higher end wine to be in a bottle with a punt, so most winemakers put their better wines in a bottle with one. It’s not needed and serves no real purpose for still wine bottles. Take a look at any cheaper wine’s bottle (Two Buck Chuck is a perfect example.) The bottom is about as flat as a pancake.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dimples-in-wine-bottles/334591/7 "2005-12-08T18:30:05Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> properly called a _punt_.

How’d it end up being called a punt?  
That usually refers to a [A flat-bottomed boat with square ends](http://machaut.uchicago.edu/?action=search&resource=Webster's&word=punt&quicksearch=on&sourceid=Mozilla-search); from which one may fire a [Punt gun](http://www.thelegendbegins.com/weapons_of_tremors4.html#punt).

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dimples-in-wine-bottles/334591/8 "2005-12-08T19:13:05Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> How’d it end up being called a punt?  
> That usually refers to a [A flat-bottomed boat with square ends](http://machaut.uchicago.edu/?action=search&resource=Webster's&word=punt&quicksearch=on&sourceid=Mozilla-search); from which one may fire a [Punt gun](http://www.thelegendbegins.com/weapons_of_tremors4.html#punt).

## **punt** ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pnt) n. The indentation in the bottom of a champagne or wine bottle.

[Perhaps from punty, iron rod used in glass blowing, probably from French pontil, from pointe, point, from Old French. See point.]

From [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com)

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dimples-in-wine-bottles/334591/9 "2005-12-08T19:40:35Z")

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An additional question not coverered in Cecil’s response:

Concerning bottles of sparkling wine (like Champagne), I had heard that the punt helped strengthen the bottle to prevent bursting from the pressure of the bubbly.

True? False? Irrelevent?

Some googling brought up these links,  
[http://www.oakstone-winery.com/oakarticlesold.htm#15](http://www.oakstone-winery.com/oakarticlesold.htm#15) (scroll down a bit for the paragraph on punts): mentions that it was solely a result of hand-blowing manufacturing processes, and was retained for the “classiness”.

[http://cheers.libsyn.com/index.php?post\_id=2297](http://cheers.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=2297) : indicates that the punt did originally provide some stability against bursting, but it’s not technically required for modern glass.

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dimples-in-wine-bottles/334591/10 "2005-12-08T19:48:23Z")

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I’ve heard it called a ‘kick’

In addition to the above, waiters use it as a grip to reach across the table when filling your glass.
