# Diner Challenge #1 - Smallest Food Portion

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 22, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diner-challenge-1-smallest-food-portion/597237 "2011-09-22T19:13:55Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diner-challenge-1-smallest-food-portion/597237/1 "2011-09-22T19:13:55Z")

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Background Story (skip if in a hurry):

Act 1[spoiler]Setting: Monk’s Cafe, W 112th and Broadway, New York City. (with apologies to NBC)

Some long-time friends gather at their customary booth.

Jerry: I got here early and ordered tea for us.  
Elaine: Don’t pour me too much, I’m on a diet.  
Kramer: So no “big salad” today?  
Elaine [glumly]: No “big salad”. I guess it’s just a “salad” today. [cue laugh track]  
Jerry proceeds to pour a single drop of tea into each teacup and serves it with a flourish. “Spot of tea, anyone?”  
Others [sarcastically]: Hah.  
George: I smell a new contest brewing…  
Elaine: Oh, Mister “master of my domain” wants another challenge?  
George: Yes! This time a hundred bucks says I can dole out the smallest food portion.  
Jerry: How do we know who wins?  
Kramer [pulls out two shiny new high-tech gadgets]: I’ve got an industrial calorimeter and a super-accurate scale!  
Jerry [sing-songy]: Really? How do _you_ have _those_?  
Kramer: Haven’t you heard? Kruger Industrial Smoothing bought out Kramerica Enterprises. Jackie Chiles got em for me in the settlement.  
Jerry [sing-songy]: Okay, then how did _Kruger Industrial Smoothing_ have _those_?  
Kramer: Their customers kept asking how smooth, so they have this division that specializes in making super-accurate measuring devices.  
George: Okay, so we each order something, then put some of it on a plate. Whomever puts the least wins.  
Kramer: I’m going to win this by ordering mustard seeds. [quietly] They’re the smallest of seeds.  
Jerry [with slow emphasis]: You can’t order mustard seed at a diner, you idiot. [laugh track]  
Kramer: Gesticulates wildly and convulsively for 4 minutes, ending with his hand shooting a gun (index finger) and saying “Giddyup!”[/spoiler]  
Act 2Elaine: Okay, I’ll use an ice cube. Zero calories. I win!  
Kramer: You can’t use ice, it’s not a food. Food has calories. So a grain of salt doesn’t count, either.  
Elaine: Shoot.  
Jerry: Yeah and you gotta use regular silverware found in the diner to cut your portion. No fair using fancy gadgets from Kruger to slice it down.  
George: What if I take this toothpick, jab it into a cherry pie and drag a thin line of red pie guts onto the plate? Does that count?  
Others: No, you can’t do that!  
George: What if I just dot it? That’s an even smaller amount.  
Jerry: No, no dotting and especially no double-dipping from you, Mister. Let’s say you gotta drop it onto the plate.  
Elaine: What if I order a bunch of glasses of water and put a drop of your tea into that, mix it up and put a drop of that into the next cup and so on?  
Jerry: This isn’t a course in making homeopathic remedies! [laugh track] No dilutions!  
The others nod in agreement.  
Jerry: And you can’t take longer than a minute to prepare your portion. Everyone agreed on the rules?  
Okay, I’m ordering a…  
   
How does Act 3 play out? What is ordered and who wins?

Challenge summary: What is the smallest (by lowest calories or by smallest weight) non-dilute food portion possible when ordering regular food from a diner that is non-zero calories and dropped onto a clean plate?

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diner-challenge-1-smallest-food-portion/597237/2 "2011-09-22T19:15:55Z")

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Moving thread from IMHO to Cafe Society.

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diner-challenge-1-smallest-food-portion/597237/3 "2011-09-22T19:27:55Z")

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Order chicken salad. Remove one piece of celery. Cut one fiber from that piece.

This is the meal!

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diner-challenge-1-smallest-food-portion/597237/4 "2011-09-22T19:48:33Z")

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Order a green salad and the sharpest knife in the place, and slice off the smallest possible portion of iceberg lettuce (making sure to avoid any dressing).

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diner-challenge-1-smallest-food-portion/597237/5 "2011-09-26T20:42:18Z")

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I’m thinking a grain of sugar is pretty small. But sugar comes in a yet smaller form. So order a powdered donut. Push the point of a toothpick into the powdered sugar on top.

This will pick up a few specks of sugar that cling to the point. Shake the specks onto the clean plate, or scrape it off with a second toothpick.

But sugar is pretty high-calorie. Is there any low-cal powdered foods that can be ordered at a diner?
