# DING DING DING! New Chick tract out. Come get it while it's hot. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 3, 2003, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221 "2003-11-03T21:40:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/41 "2003-11-04T14:00:49Z")
Wow, that was a deadly accurate simulpost. ---
**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/42 "2003-11-04T14:13:09Z")
Thanks **jjimm**. I know I shouldn’t let it get to me, but I have to admit that I was brooding about this last night. **OpalCat** hit the nail on the head when she said it remined her of Nazi propaganda. While I’m almost hardened to Anti-Muslim bigotry in print from people like Anne Coulter, there’s just something about a visual caricature that makes one feel the hatred in a much more visceral way. A picture says a thousand words, they say, and the sub-human depictions of Muslims in this tract say plenty. Nasty, nasty nasty. I wish I’d never clicked on the link now. Maybe I should just grow a thicker skin and try to shrug this sort of thing off, but it’s still really depressing. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/43 "2003-11-04T14:17:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kombucha’ShroomPerson \* > **Am I the only one thinking of Chick walking in to work and saying “Fundamentalism is in danger of growing stale. I’m taking it to strange new places…” Barney in the B Sharps-style?** Not anymore! Bwa-_hahahahahahaaa!_ Classic & disturbingly funny mental image! ---
**Author:** ![TelcontarStorm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ab097/32.png) [@TelcontarStorm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TelcontarStorm)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/44 "2003-11-04T14:39:37Z")
I don’t know about Steven Speilberg,but that sure looked like my Dad’s first wife! I’m sure my Brother Robert will be glad to hear about her whereabouts recently. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/45 "2003-11-04T17:29:40Z")
Well, I dunno. This might have happened _somewhere_… Right? Er…? ---
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/46 "2003-11-04T18:02:43Z")
Has it every occurred to anyone that Chick is trolling the SDMB, all without ever even subscribing? He certainly seems to attract big enough BBQ Pit pile-ons with an easy frequency and you begin to wonder who drives the most traffic to his crummy cartoons. The SDMB certainly seems to be amongst his most avid readers. ---
**Author:** ![More\_Cowbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@More\_Cowbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/More_Cowbell)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/47 "2003-11-04T18:52:57Z")
Chick isn’t just hateful, he’s insane. Read some of his non-comic stuff and it becomes apparent. Here is a snippet of one of his books “Smokescreens”. > [@](#): > > Remember back when the John Birch Societies were springing up all over the United States, with people screaming “This is it! The communists are coming!” 'They’re taking us over. We’ve only got a few years left." Remember that? … The excitement and the fervor of Christians rallying to fight this monster, even if it meant joining forces with the Roman Catholics, to stop it? Beloved, it was a great smokescreen to take the eyes of the Christians off the movements of the Vatican and her push for world control. > > ``` > Lo, and behold! Here it comes again. Only the names have been changed. The newest movement has been called the "New Age Movement," and it's in full force. But who's behind it? > > We know this is an abomination, and the Bible tells us that the mother of abominations is the whore of Revelation 17, the Roman Catholic institution. Rest assured, the Jesuits, the Illuminati, the Opus Dei, and Masons are guiding its activities, and the result will be another gigantic smokescreen which is already taking the eyes of the Christians off the Vatican while they secretly use this movement to accomplish their goals. > > ``` The Jesuits, the Illuminati, Opus Dei and the Masons? Of course! :smack: :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![WaryEri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ea666f/32.png) [@WaryEri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WaryEri)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/48 "2003-11-04T19:05:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Futile Gesture \* > \*\* > He certainly seems to attract big enough BBQ Pit pile-ons with an easy frequency and you begin to wonder who drives the most traffic to his crummy cartoons. The SDMB certainly seems to be amongst his most avid readers. \*\* I think it’s great, personally. I noticed that his site was lagging alot last night went I went to read the latest vomitting of hateful ink onto paper. I can guess at how much bandwidth for such a popular site loaded with images must cost. Chicky and his breathren must be shelling out alot of money each month to allow the sane to laugh at them. Consider his near internet legend status, I’d be willing to best that most of the visitors to Chicky’s site aren’t going there for spiritual enlightenment. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/49 "2003-11-04T19:19:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bibliovore \* > \*\*Thanks **jjimm**. I know I shouldn’t let it get to me, but I have to admit that I was brooding about this last night. **OpalCat** hit the nail on the head when she said it remined her of Nazi propaganda. > > While I’m almost hardened to Anti-Muslim bigotry in print from people like Anne Coulter, there’s just something about a visual caricature that makes one feel the hatred in a much more visceral way. > > A picture says a thousand words, they say, and the sub-human depictions of Muslims in this tract say plenty. Nasty, nasty nasty. > > I wish I’d never clicked on the link now. Maybe I should just grow a thicker skin and try to shrug this sort of thing off, but it’s still really depressing. \*\* **Bibliovore** , if I may presume to counsel you, I would recommend that you take the opportunity to read as many of these craptacular tracts as you can find time for. The naked self-serving commercialism in _“Who, Me?”_ gives a useful insight into Chick’s more, shall we say, _mundane_ motivations. The rest of them, when taken in large doses, evoke a bizarre and surreal landscape of hatred and intolerance that eventually becomes impossible to take seriously. Whatever you decide, I wish you a speedy recovery from the experience of your first Chick Tract. ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/50 "2003-11-04T19:44:35Z")
I’m glad he drew the Muslim adults so ugly, so I didn’t have to put too much thought into who I’m supposed to hate. ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/51 "2003-11-04T19:44:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by eunoia \* > \*\*Check out the frame right before the earth-shattering KA BLAM! > > Poor Waylon Jennings, wrong place, wrong time. \*\* [Hmmmm](http://www.abc.net.au/snc/stories/Waylon_Jennings_Dead_at_64_m350860.JPG)… **gobear** , I don’t think you need to worry about a thing. If the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy is burning its half-billion dollar fuel supply through all cylinders, JackieC will be visiting the subject of gay marriage sometime right around late spring, 2004. ---
**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/52 "2003-11-04T22:03:20Z")
Well as one who is both Gay and Episcopal, if ol Jackie doesn’t do something about the fact that an openly gay Priest who lives in a committed relationship with a :eek: _MAN_ was Consecrated as a Bishop soon, I am going to be highly pissed. I mean, come on Chickie! You can’t possibly pass that up. Maybe we could become the Great Whore of Babylon’s skanky little sister, or something. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix\_Dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Phoenix\_Dragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phoenix_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/53 "2003-11-04T22:36:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MGibson \* > **Isn’t pitting Chick a bit like stealing candy from a baby, kicking a man while he’s down, fighting your way out of a wet paper bag, or falling off a log?** I tend to think of it as punching a punching bag. It accomplishes little, but it’s the only constructive purpose the object can serve. ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/54 "2003-11-05T01:34:13Z")
Personally, I kinda like frame 16. Uncle Salman…HAW HAW HAW!! ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/55 "2003-11-05T04:32:26Z")
Notes on this one, and a couple questions: 1. Isn’t it sooooooo convenient that all the non-Christians in Chick’s tract are told about Jesus at some point before they die? Every single one of the anti-Islam tracts has that random Arab who somehow has come to be a Christian and meets up with the Islamic guy. Nice how Chick manages thereby to dodge the question of what happens to those who didn’t hear of Jesus under his theology. 2. Of course, the fact that nobody would be convinced to change faiths by one dissenting authority amidst the dozens of authorities the member of the local religion has grown up with doesn’t really deter Chick from expecting conversion. If one is already accepting religious argument from authority (a child, at least, could only really believe for those reasons), how Chick could expect a Moslem kid to reject the whole of his community’s authority for that of some random kid is ridiculous. 3. Seriously, I don’t think you could entice preteens to suicide bombing with the promise of virgins. They probably have some more coercive method of inducing children to do this sort of thing, threatening their family or something. Anybody know? 4. BTW, we often hear that Jesus is mentioned as a prophet in Islam. Is it merely in oral tradition, or is he in the Qu’ran as well? Do his supposed sayings line up, or is the portrayal vastly different? ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/56 "2003-11-05T04:38:08Z")
You know what?, for some reason I´d LOVE to see a picture of Jack Chick right now, how very odd. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/57 "2003-11-05T06:34:29Z")
> [@](#): > > BTW, we often hear that Jesus is mentioned as a prophet in Islam. Is it merely in oral tradition, or is he in the Qu’ran as well? Do his supposed sayings line up, or is the portrayal vastly different? I don’t know the precise details but I do know that Jesus is regarded as the second of three great prophets (Moses being the first and Mohammed obviously the last). Basically the Koran says that Jesus was a prophet but that he was not God and was not resurrected (interestingly, though, Muslims do believe in the virgin birth). I IRC, it is believed that the New Testament represents a corrupted account of the life, words and identity of Jesus but other than rejecting any claims of divinity, I don’t know specifically which teachings of Jesus are accepted as valid or invalid. I would imagine that **Aldebaran** could help us out on that. ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/58 "2003-11-05T06:49:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\* > I would imagine that **Aldebaran** could help us out on that. \*\* That’s true. If we could get a straight unprejudiced answer from **Aldebaran** , that would be extremely useful. I would really like to know this, I’m extremely interested. My knowledge of Islamic theology is greatly lacking and I keep running into these situations where I suddenly need it for context. Of course, Christian evangelism has attacked and put all the Islamic folk on the defensive so often that I can imagine why we often don’t get the straight-dope on Islam vis a vie Yeshua. ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/59 "2003-11-05T08:42:00Z")
Yeah for Abdulla!!! He’s such a good kid. I want to create a Chick Tract zinger sticker. Basicly redraw the last frame and have it printed on a sticker. This one would say “and then Jesus said ‘just kidding’ and Abdulla spent forever with 70 virgins” ---
**Author:** ![Bibliovore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Bibliovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bibliovore)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221/60 "2003-11-05T11:44:41Z")
For those who were asking, Muslims believe that Jesus (peace be upon him) was one of the great Prophets of God. In the Qur’an he is called ‘Isa. He is also known as al-Masih (the Christ) and Ibn Maryam (Son of Mary). The virgin birth is clearly mentioned in the Qur’an and no recognized Muslim authority has ever disputed this claim. However, Muslim and Christian interpretations differ on the meaning of the virgin birth. For Christians it was the sign of incarnation, the coming to earth of the Son of God. For Muslims it was a special miracle. Muslims also believe that Jesus (pbuh) is the Messiah, that he will come back to earth before the end of time, will restore peace and order and struggle against the Anti-Christ. I always get a lot of raised eyebrows when I tell Christians about that last bit… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ding-ding-ding-new-chick-tract-out-come-get-it-while-its-hot/211221.md?page=4)