# Dinosaur movies -- fights where the theropod loses?

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**Created:** [January 17, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866 "2018-01-17T22:11:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/21 "2018-01-18T19:44:35Z")

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OK, I watched that Walking with Dinosaurs clip, and wondered to myself why the narrator was mispronouncing “anklyosaurus”. Which led to me looking at the word again, and… Hm. When did they change the spelling to “ankylosaurus”? I’m absolutely certain that, my whole life, it’s been spelled the other way!

…Right?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/22 "2018-01-18T20:00:21Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> OK, I watched that Walking with Dinosaurs clip, and wondered to myself why the narrator was mispronouncing “anklyosaurus”. Which led to me looking at the word again, and… Hm. When did they change the spelling to “ankylosaurus”? I’m absolutely certain that, my whole life, it’s been spelled the other way!
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> …Right?

Sorry. I was brung up with “ankylosaurus”, and it’s always been that way.

Don’t feel bad. There are plenty of things that I thought were one way , while the rest of the world was certain they were other ways. On alternate days I just tell myself that I slipped through one of the Riemnann fold into an alternate dimension where this is the only difference between our worlds. Like the “glide-wheel spoon” in Creedence’s “Out my Back Door.”

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/23 "2018-01-18T20:16:30Z")

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When I was a kid, they’d show the clip from Fantasia about evolution and dinosaurs. I thought it featured a T. Rex/Triceratops battle, which the latter won. Actually it was a Stegosaurus/Allosaurus fight, which the predator won.

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**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/24 "2018-01-18T20:53:08Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> OK, I watched that Walking with Dinosaurs clip, and wondered to myself why the narrator was mispronouncing “anklyosaurus”. Which led to me looking at the word again, and… Hm. When did they change the spelling to “ankylosaurus”? I’m absolutely certain that, my whole life, it’s been spelled the other way!
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> …Right?

Nah. _Ankylosaurus_ is derived from the Greek “ankylos”, meaning “fused” or “crooked”. _Ankylosaurus_ is thus “fused lizard”, referring to the various bone fusions found in the skeleton.

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**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/25 "2018-01-19T00:06:53Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> There were dinosaurs in that movie? I never noticed.

Considering Ms. Welch is pushing 80 now, some might suggest there were at least two other “dinosaurs” in that movie.

:eek:

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**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/26 "2018-01-19T01:03:52Z")

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**The Land That Time Forgot** has a [nasty, brutish and short fight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1Zf3E8Ejzk) between a _Triceratops_ and what appears to be a kinda-sorta-_Ceratosaurus_; the latter is skewered and killed in what is a remarkably one-sided fight.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/27 "2018-01-19T01:15:43Z")

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I don’t like to brag, but I can almost always tell when they use fake dinosaurs in a movie.

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**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/28 "2018-01-19T03:37:11Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> If you can take your mind off Raquel Welch’s costume (or lack thereof) in **One Million Years BC",** a theropod gets killed by a Triceratops ( **don’t know what kind of therapod** , the movie makers were a bit more concerned with Ms. Welch’s cleavage than paleontology).

Just for the record, Allosaurus.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/29 "2018-01-19T05:11:48Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> Not quite what the OP is looking for, but the cheesy classic _ **Dinosaurus!** _ ends with the T-Rex losing a [battle with a steam shovel](https://youtu.be/DEm70fUYHS8?t=1h19m15s).

Lord, I had forgotten how bad that movie was. 😃

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**Author:** ![Mavic\_Chen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@Mavic\_Chen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mavic_Chen)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/30 "2018-01-19T14:14:24Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> Not quite what the OP is looking for, but the cheesy classic _ **Dinosaurus!** _ ends with the T-Rex losing a [battle with a steam shovel](https://youtu.be/DEm70fUYHS8?t=1h19m15s).

That fight reminds me very much of the power loader vs queen in Aliens(1986) bet James Cameron was influenced somehow.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/31 "2018-01-19T14:50:21Z")

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> [@Mavic\_Chen](#):
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> That fight reminds me very much of the power loader vs queen in Aliens(1986) bet James Cameron was influenced somehow.

Look at my post #19 above

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/32 "2018-01-19T16:34:51Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Look at my post #19 above

Oops, poor cognitive skillz “R” me.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/33 "2018-01-19T16:53:19Z")

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> [@PlumBob](#):
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> Didn’t a dude with a sharp stick kill a theropod in that movie?

I don’t think I’d be using my stick on a dinosaur if 1960’s Welch was available (or even 2018, she is holding up very well (presumably some credit to her picking talent plastic surgeons (c.f. Kenny Rogers))).

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/34 "2018-01-19T18:00:29Z")

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King Kong defeated a T Rex in 1933. I think he bested other theropods (and theropod-like beasts) in other films.

(Godzilla may be a draw- as I understand it, Kong beat Godzilla in the movie I saw as a kid in America, but was beaten by Godzilla in the Japanese version of the same film.)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/35 "2018-01-19T18:13:53Z")

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It’s also not clear that Godzilla is properly considered a theropod, or indeed any sort of dinosaur.

And you do have to admit that Ripley vs. the Queen was much cooler than Guy in a Steam Shovel vs. a T. rex.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dinosaur-movies-fights-where-the-theropod-loses/806866/36 "2018-01-19T19:07:05Z")

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Then there’s The Valley of Gwangi.

I have only seen snippets of the movie. Apparently, Gwangi, a T Rex, is driven off by a Styracosaurus, at least briefly, although later Gwangi ultimately triumphs.

IIRC, the circus elephant made a good showing against Gwangi, but ultimately succumbed.

> **[The Valley of Gwangi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Valley_of_Gwangi)**
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> The Valley of Gwangi is a 1969 American fantasy Western film produced by Charles H. Schneer and Ray Harryhausen, directed by Jim O'Connolly, written by William Bast, and starring James Franciscus, Richard Carlson, and Gila Golan.
> Creature stop-motion effects were by Harryhausen, the last dinosaur-themed film that he animated. He had inherited the film project from his mentor Willis O'Brien, responsible for the effects in the original King Kong (1933). O'Brien had planned to make The Valley of...

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> After Carlos kills the Pteranodon by twisting its neck, they spot an Ornithomimus, which they chase after in the hopes of capturing it. Just as it is about to escape, it is killed by Gwangi, a vicious Tyrannosaurus which chases Bromley and the rest of the group. However, a Styracosaurus appears and drives Gwangi away. …
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> Later, Gwangi pursues the group to their base camp and they try to rope him down, but he breaks free when the Styracosaurus reappears. Gwangi battles and kills the Styracosaurus and later manages to catch and kill Carlos, but is knocked out while trying to exit the valley in pursuit of the rest of the group.
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> Securing the creature, Tuck and the other men in the group take Gwangi back to town to be put on display in T.J.'s show. … Gwangi breaks free. … Gwangi attacks and kills a circus elephant before rampaging through the town.

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> The last Jurassic movie had the Big Bad Theropod losing to a Mosasaurus in a single bite.

Oh, that reminds me.

_Walking with Dinosaurs_, ep 3, “Cruel Seas”.

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> The episode begins with a Eustreptospondylus being snatched from the shore by Liopleurodon.

> **[Walking with Dinosaurs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_with_Dinosaurs)**
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> Walking with Dinosaurs is a 1999 six-part nature documentary television miniseries created by Tim Haines and produced by the BBC Science Unit, the Discovery Channel and BBC Worldwide, in association with TV Asahi, ProSieben and France 3. Envisioned as the first "Natural History of Dinosaurs", Walking with Dinosaurs depicts dinosaurs and other Mesozoic animals as living animals in the style of a traditional nature documentary. The series first aired on the BBC in the United Kingdom in 1999 with...

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