# Dio, at it again and raising the bar **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 20, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888 "2010-06-20T18:19:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/341 "2010-06-22T17:28:08Z")
**Nzinga** , from the way you describe it, **Dio** is the Trey and Matt of the SDMB world. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/342 "2010-06-22T17:31:09Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t feel strongly that they should, and never said I did. I’m just not going to throw roses at a group who picks the easiest funerals to do it at. You don’t feel strongly that they should, but you call them assholes, attention whores, phonies, hypocrites, and said they can go fuck themselves because they don’t. Just how many stupid things can you say in one week? ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/343 "2010-06-22T17:31:38Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > Diogenes has a history of being a very strong defender of science and rational thinking. No. Dio has no history of being a very strong defender of anything. He’s not smart enough to mount a strong defense of anything, and even if he somehow managed to come up with something that isn’t completely moronic, no one will listen…because he’s fucking Dio. He’s a fuckwit, a troll, and an agenda whore. He’s almost always wrong, will never concede defeat, and spams his bullshit over and over apparently because it makes him feel useful. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/344 "2010-06-22T17:35:18Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > You don’t feel strongly that they should, but you call them assholes, attention whores, phonies, hypocrites, and said they can go fuck themselves because they don’t. No, I said those things because they expect to be lauded for doing it when it’s easy. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/345 "2010-06-22T17:40:56Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > No, I said those things because they expect to be lauded for doing it when it’s easy. No, you said it because you feel strongly about the fact that they “refuse to help families of gay people”. Quit the stupid backpedaling. ---
**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/346 "2010-06-22T18:08:45Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I did read the article before posting in either of these threads. I apologize for assuming you didn’t read it. > [@Dinsdale](#): > > Tho it “discussed” various aspects, I think it came down as more sympathetic to the parents involved, and more accepting of the “stress” explanation/excuse, than I. Undoubtedly reasonable people can differ as to whether or not these parents should be prosecuted. I completely agree with you. > [@Dinsdale](#): > > Not sure what questions I asked were unquestionable resolved in the article. It is a newspaper feature article, not a legal treatise or scientific/medical study, so I’m not going to defer to it as either. I don’t think any questions were resolved in the article, part of why I think it was so nuanced. People will continue to discuss whether parents should be prosecuted. Someone who has read the article knows that historically the prosecution and even the charge depends on the location, the attorney’s personal judgment, and frankly, the demeanor of the defendant. I think we’re actually in agreement about most stuff, and that I may be derailing this thread which was created to yell at **DtC** , so, ummm, “Vikings Suck!” ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/347 "2010-06-22T18:10:38Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > The times where he gets very, very, stubborn is topics that involve children suffering any harm. I think the emotional parts of his brain light up and short circuit the logical parts. But in doing so he hints, ever so gently, that us parents that have a more nuanced view of the situation are fine with baby killing and such. But he only means it in the kindest possible sense. :rolleyes: And some other people intimate that if we strongly object to his interpretation, it means that we hate him. Or something. Cause I have time to start hating people on a message board when I have a long list of people IRL that actually deserve my hate (I am looking at you, stupid politicians). Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/348 "2010-06-22T18:12:12Z")
I pointed out that they refuse to help gay people as a way to drive home the point that they pick easy battles. I’m not saying they SHOULD go to gay funeral. I’m just withholding the laurels for doing easy stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/349 "2010-06-22T18:17:56Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I pointed out that they refuse to help gay people as a way to drive home the point that they pick easy battles. I’m not saying they SHOULD go to gay funeral. I’m just withholding the laurels for doing easy stuff. Oh, shut the hell up. Withholding laurels is not the same as telling someone to go fuck themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/350 "2010-06-22T18:38:12Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > That’s not the same, though. Ok, I know some folks like what Der has to say, but hate his style. I don’t get that, I dig his style, but whatever. > > But it is different with DtC. His style is fine. The cool, arrogant, nonchelant response to spit flecked messageboard outrage is actually fun to watch. But something new has happened with him lately. He has started being wrong about so much shit. Word. When I was just a chubby cheeked baby at the SDMB, Dio made all my little ‘favorite doper lists’ (I don’t get down with such threads anymore, but I used to be all into them). Now, this dude is just making me wonder what in the world I used to see in him. He says the dumbest shit, all of a sudden. “A baby is never out to dinner in just a diaper. It doesn’t happen. Ever.” I mean, come on. That is just dumb on purpose. > > So I decided that he got a bit big-headed being right so often, making so many posters ‘fave poster’ lists all the time. He felt the need to really push the envelope, stay edgy, as it were. Haha. Lots of posters are calling it sad, but it is actually kind of humorous if you look it at right. He is still a most entertaining poster. I’m with you, **Nzinga**. **Dio** ’s changed. I used to look forward to his posts. Now I’m just embarrassed for him. Maybe he’s not getting enough fiber in his diet or something. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/351 "2010-06-22T18:39:22Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I pointed out that they refuse to help gay people as a way to drive home the point that they pick easy battles. I’m not saying they SHOULD go to gay funeral. I’m just withholding the laurels for doing easy stuff. You’re a lying, sanctimonious piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/352 "2010-06-22T18:50:57Z")
I’m not a liar. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/353 "2010-06-22T18:53:37Z")
Yeah, you are. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/354 "2010-06-22T18:54:07Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I’m not a liar. In the thread that led to this one you recently stated that you had provided a cite for a statute earlier in the thread. You never provided that cite. You had been specifically asked for the cite, had acknowledged being asked, and told the person to find it himself. Then you later dishonestly claimed that you had provided the cite when asked. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/355 "2010-06-22T18:55:29Z")
> [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](#): > > I’m with you, **Nzinga**. **Dio** ’s changed. I used to look forward to his posts. Now I’m just embarrassed for him. Maybe he’s not getting enough fiber in his diet or something. Diogenes has always, _always_, _ALWAYS_ been a fucking cock. People only accepted it because he was saying crap they agreed with. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/356 "2010-06-22T18:59:09Z")
> [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](#): > > In the thread that led to this one you recently stated that you had provided a cite for a statute earlier in the thread. You never provided that cite. You had been specifically asked for the cite, had acknowledged being asked, and told the person to find it himself. Then you later dishonestly claimed that you had provided the cite when asked. Incorrect. Yesterday I provided a page with mapped links to all the states which have unattended child statutes. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/357 "2010-06-22T19:08:19Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Incorrect. Yesterday I provided a page with mapped links to all the states which have unattended child statutes. No you didn’t. Not in that thread anyway, which is where you claimed to have posted it. You are aware that all of your responses are saved electronically, so that anyone can go back and see what you wrote, and check on the veracity of your statements, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/358 "2010-06-22T19:09:48Z")
I am aware. You need to search better. I posted the link sometime yeterday. I’ll see if I can find it. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/359 "2010-06-22T19:10:25Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I’m not a liar. So you’re copping to being a “sanctimonious piece of shit”? Cool. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/360 "2010-06-22T19:13:26Z")
[Here it is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12601350#post12601350) Took about 30 seconds to find. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888.md?page=19)