# Dio, at it again and raising the bar **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 20, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888 "2010-06-20T18:19:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/421 "2010-06-23T02:12:06Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > He’s just breaking out another one of his “I’m not quite on the wrong side of the trolling line so nyaah-nyaaah to the mods” routines. Haven’t you seen that one before? Yes, and I honestly can’t imagine how he pulls it off. It must be like riding a bicycle on a railroad track. His constant “I really think this way” schtick probably saves him - reasonable doubt and all. Plus I’m sure none of the mods wants to be known as Dio-killer, this place is his life. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/422 "2010-06-23T02:18:08Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > What a piece of garbage you are. They were 12 weeks into a confirmed pregnancy when they found out that the yolk sack was empty. There was nothing trollish about that OP, and you even apologized after realizing what a dick you were being. Oh, dude, that is just _foul_. Glad to hear he apologized for that; not impressed to see him attempting to defend himself for it again in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![moejoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@moejoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moejoe)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/423 "2010-06-23T02:58:00Z")
as my grandmother would say: what on EARTH are you children on about in here? I can only assume that the people in this thread enjoy being trolled, otherwise why would you keep playing the game so ardently? And if you are enjoying it then this thread would be a lot more fun to read if you’d just admit it. You can’t get mad at someone for taking a poo if you’re the one who keeps feeding him the laxatives. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/424 "2010-06-23T03:12:47Z")
Dio is gutter trash and a troll. Some people don’t realize it, so we are making it known. That’s what us kids are on about, granny. ---
**Author:** ![moejoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@moejoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moejoe)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/425 "2010-06-23T03:18:04Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Dio is gutter trash and a troll. Some people don’t realize it, so we are making it known. That’s what us kids are on about, granny. Oh, I think everyone realizes it. Don’t kid yourself that this is 9 pages of some kind of public service. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/426 "2010-06-23T04:03:07Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > 4,317,119 babies were born in the US [in 2007](http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/18/birth-rate-us-baby-boomers) > > - [1.1](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_birth)% were twins or higher order multiples > = ~8,500,000 individual parents (let’s assume that the rest were Spring cases with more than one baby-momma per daddy) > Average number of U.S. child hyperthermia fatalities per year since 1998: 37 [cite](http://ggweather.com/heat/), 24% of which are typically infants under age one = 9 > So, out of over 8 million new US parents of infants, only 9 of them have this “it can’t happen to me” incident happen to them. I think that’s close enough to make the claim that “It wouldn’t happen to me” applies to most parents absolute. One flaw in your calculations. How many parents forgot their children but then remembered and got them out of the car before death? Two seconds, ten seconds, 10 minutes later, but they got the kids out in time. Hell even by his own admission it has happened to the high and mighty, never wrong Dio. By his own admission he was distracted from his children by something that was far more important, a Vikings game. If you could get those numbers, I am sure this would be a lot more common. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/427 "2010-06-23T04:12:32Z")
I actually posted a thread in GQ once asking if there were any stats on number of kids left in cars with a non-fatal outcome. (I think my original question was along the lines of why we never hear about babies freezing to death in cars in winter like we hear about them in summer.) The consensus was that it probably happens a fair bit, but in mild weather - or even cold weather but the baby is well-bundled - the only thing that happens is that the kid is traumatized from being left in the car way too long, but otherwise is OK, and nothing gets reported. For a fatal outcome, you need the combination of a distracted parent AND failure of daycare/babysitter/etc to call and check on the kid AND outdoor temperature that is hot enough to kill AND length of time in car long enough to kill. This combination is thankfully rare, but the individual elements are undoubtedly less rare. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/428 "2010-06-23T04:28:31Z")
This thread reminds me of the winged monkeys and the scarecrow in _The Wizard of Oz_. Only they were more likable. ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/429 "2010-06-23T05:04:49Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Dio is gutter trash and a troll. Some people don’t realize it, so we are making it known. That’s what us kids are on about, granny. Maybe so. But I know that **Dio** is creaming his shorts to realize that people have been talking about him for nine pages. Let’s not give him the satisfaction of a tenth. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/430 "2010-06-23T05:05:04Z")
> [@moejoe](#): > > as my grandmother would say: what on EARTH are you children on about in here? > > I can only assume that the people in this thread enjoy being trolled, otherwise why would you keep playing the game so ardently? And if you are enjoying it then this thread would be a lot more fun to read if you’d just admit it. > > You can’t get mad at someone for taking a poo if you’re the one who keeps feeding him the laxatives. I got a few things out of it. I learned something about the law I hadn’t previously known, I had fun arguing it, and I exposed **Dio** as a liar in addition to his being a troll. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/431 "2010-06-23T08:18:47Z")
> [@moejoe](#): > > I can only assume that the people in this thread enjoy being trolled, otherwise why would you keep playing the game so ardently? And if you are enjoying it then this thread would be a lot more fun to read if you’d just admit it. I was out in the woods today by myself. An hour from the car. No cell phone reception. Got attacked by yellow jackets. A handful of stings and a shit load of running and diving underwater. Got woossy from the adrenaline rush. Wondered if I might go into anaphalactic (sp?) shock, stroke out/have a heart attack (and it was hot as fuck too) and die alone (but it was a pretty place to die). But, in all honesty, I think I had a better day doing that than keeping up with Dio’s shit show for the day. ---
**Author:** ![ToborAton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@ToborAton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToborAton)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/432 "2010-06-23T10:16:17Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > But, in all honesty, I think I had a better day doing that than keeping up with Dio’s shit show for the day. I can see how one might view Diogenes’s posting style as being very similar to being attacked by a swarm of angry yellow jackets but you felt good because you got away and saved your life… only to come back and stir up the hive. Why not just try beekeeping with yellow jackets? I would have offered you a link but I don’t think you can even find the Yellow Jacket Beekeepers mailing list online. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ToborAton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@ToborAton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToborAton)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/433 "2010-06-23T10:34:22Z")
So “Diogenes” is obviously a name for someone who has genetic material of the Gods. That guy was born in Sinope 1,600 years ago (+/- 6 years). The people of Sinope didn’t like Diogenes and kicked him out and so Diogenes of Sinope moved to Athens where he became known as Diogenes the Cynic. Here is a link to his page in Wikipedia: > **[Diogenes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope)** > > Diogenes (/daɪˈɒdʒɪniːz/ dy-OJ-in-eez; Ancient Greek: Διογένης, romanized: Diogénēs \[di.oɡénɛːs\]), also known as Diogenes the Cynic (Διογένης ὁ Κυνικός, Diogénēs ho Kynikós) or Diogenes of Sinope, was a Greek philosopher and one of the founders of Cynicism. He was born in Sinope, an Ionian colony on the Black Sea coast of Anatolia (now Türkiye) in 412 or 404 BC and died at Corinth in 323 BC. > Diogenes was a controversial figure. He was banished, or fled from, Sinope over debasement of currency. H... Please try to keep the vandalism minimal and in good taste! In fact the guy seems to have look at dogs as role models (Diogenes the Dog) so I imagine the vandalism is probably completely unnecessary; not that vandalism is ever necessary… ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/434 "2010-06-23T13:22:45Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > Maybe so. But I know that **Dio** is creaming his shorts to realize that people have been talking about him for nine pages. > > Let’s not give him the satisfaction of a tenth. Well, we had it all planned out perfectly to be one post shy of page ten. If you hadn’t posted, it would have worked. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/435 "2010-06-23T13:40:17Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I’ve never trolled in my life. What I say is what I really think. The two are not mutually exclusive. Take Stormfronters, for example. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/436 "2010-06-23T14:22:50Z")
> [@Library\_Boy](#): > > Something about social workers and removing children? Oh, yes. Here’s that example of Diogenes being completely right despite being shown to be quite wrong: [Dio couldn’t be assed to provide a cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=534676) Complete with some saying “Seriously man, are you ok?”. In his defence, searching on those terms showed me that he had made the same categorical statement years earlier and no one called him on it so I guess that helped cement his opinion as totally right in his mind. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/437 "2010-06-24T01:04:45Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Dio is gutter trash and a troll. Some people don’t realize it, so we are making it known. That’s what us kids are on about, granny. Wow, gutter trash. I kinda had him pegged as an internet a-hole, and annoying, but often amusing, crazy person. But gutter trash. All right then. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/438 "2010-06-24T01:26:12Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Wow, gutter trash. I kinda had him pegged as an internet a-hole, and annoying, but often amusing, crazy person. But gutter trash. All right then. Well, the interconnected series of tubes has to eventually drain somewhere. Thats where you’ll find Dio. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/439 "2010-06-24T03:32:23Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Oh, yes. Here’s that example of Diogenes being completely right despite being shown to be quite wrong: > [Dio couldn’t be assed to provide a cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=534676) That’s hilarious! **Treis** : If CPS thinks there is an immediate danger to the kids they can take them without a court order. It is true that they will have to go in front of a judge pretty quickly to justify their actions. **Dio** : This is wrong. If there is an emergent situation, CPS will call the police and the police will do the removal. **Dio** : CPS cannot take kids out of a home. It has to be ordered by a judge. CPS can make a case to a judge as to the why it thinks a household may be unfit, but they don’t make the decison. A court does. If these kids were removed, it was because a judge ordered it done, and the judge ordered it done because the evidence presented fit a prescribed set of criteria. The image that CPS workers can, or even want to, just arbitrarily snatch kids away from homes is a bogus one.. **Muffin** : No, in an emergency they do not require a court order. They make the apprehension, and then later ger a judge to ratify it. [cite] **Dio** : If we agree that courts are always “involved” then I was right in saying the courts are always involved. **Dio** : What I was really trying to say was that CPS does not have anywhere near the autonomy that a lot of people think they do. Even after an emergency situation, they still have to explain themselves to a judge and do so quickly. :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888.md?page=21)