# Dio, at it again and raising the bar

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 20, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888 "2010-06-20T18:19:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dio-at-it-again-and-raising-the-bar/543888/369 "2010-06-22T20:21:16Z")

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Do we really need to do this again?

> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I’m not a liar.

> [@Bearflag70](#):
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> You argued that it was murder and criminal negligence _per se_.

[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
No, I argued that it was illegal, _per se_ to leave a baby in a car.  
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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]

Parents who do that crap should be jailed for life. They are murderers.  
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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]

Leaving a baby in a car is automatically criminally negligent by statute.  
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> [@Texas toddler dies after mom leaves her in a hot car for 45 minutes](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-toddler-dies-after-mom-leaves-her-in-a-hot-car-for-45-minutes/543728/282):
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> No, the statutes against leaving babies in cars were the only ones I was ever referring to. … I never made a claim about the level of penalty. I just said it was illegal.

> [@Texas toddler dies after mom leaves her in a hot car for 45 minutes](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-toddler-dies-after-mom-leaves-her-in-a-hot-car-for-45-minutes/543728/291):
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> You argued, “They are murderers.” Now you claim you didn’t really mean it. :dubious:
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> You argued, “Parents who do that crap should be jailed for life.” Now, you say you “never made any claim at all about the level of penalty.” :dubious:

> [@Texas toddler dies after mom leaves her in a hot car for 45 minutes](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-toddler-dies-after-mom-leaves-her-in-a-hot-car-for-45-minutes/543728/293):
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> Sure you did. Besides the calling the parents murderers, you indicated that anybody who didn’t want to throw parents in jail for leaving their babies in cars wanted it to be legal.
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> Well, [here’s the Texas Penal Code](http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.12.htm#12.23) on Class C Misdemeanor, which is what intentionally or knowingly leaving a child in a car in Texas represents:
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> Now, how was it you were arguing for jail time for this infraction when you knew all along that there was no jail time involved?

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