# Diogenes, go take a nap **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 19, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306 "2010-09-19T17:42:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/221 "2010-09-20T19:25:22Z")
\*Yo, my name is Dio I get pitted all the time But I become totally cool When I make my posts rhyme So even if I’m being jerk And saying all kinds of shit The words flow together So you can just ignore it You don’t need talent to rap Yeah, that’s what I said Hip-hop ain’t real music End of thread\* ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/222 "2010-09-20T19:41:54Z")
Boo! Get off the stage!! ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/223 "2010-09-20T19:42:34Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > > [@MsWhatsit](#): > > > > **Hentor** , the people you are responding to are simply expressing their opinions, which happen to be contrary to yours. Why are you continuing to engage them, unless you are just trying to “get them!” by forcing them to knuckle under? > > They’re making me do it. They’re being complete JERKS by expressing their opinion of Diogenes as established FACT without prefacing everything THEY say as “in my opinion”. If only they were expressing their opinions NICELY and with all kinds of CAVEATS, instead of saying them FORCEFULLY as FACTS I would not be compelled to continue to browbeat them into submitting to an agreement with my position. I’m so INSECURE in my own opinions that having other people express theirs FORCEFULLY without stating up front that it is only another different OPINION threatens me terribly. I’m unable to avoid engaging with them on this topic, and I may in fact be compelled to bring them up in multiple other threads even when they don’t participate in those threads. > > I’ve even come to conceptualize them as “Diogenes Attackers,” (with capitalization like that) and to see them as a single entity that I am opposed to. I’ve sent back-channel messages to **Larry Borgia** in order to try to form an opposition band. I’m hoping to recruit **elucidator** as a like-minded compatriot to the cause. That way, I’ll feel assured of my own opinion. Except it was you who added to your own position early on by mischaracterizing us “Diogenes Attackers” (now with added quote tags!) as those who could not control ourselves. Which of course you knew was inaccurate. But carry on with your party because no matter how you try spin it, the fact is\*\* Dio\*\* is rude and disruptive according to most of us here… In my most humble opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/224 "2010-09-20T19:45:54Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > > [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > > > They’re making me do it. They’re being complete JERKS by expressing their opinion of Diogenes as established FACT without prefacing everything THEY say as “in my opinion”. If only they were expressing their opinions NICELY and with all kinds of CAVEATS, instead of saying them FORCEFULLY as FACTS I would not be compelled to continue to browbeat them into submitting to an agreement with my position. I’m so INSECURE in my own opinions that having other people express theirs FORCEFULLY without stating up front that it is only another different OPINION threatens me terribly. I’m unable to avoid engaging with them on this topic, and I may in fact be compelled to bring them up in multiple other threads even when they don’t participate in those threads. > > > > I’ve even come to conceptualize them as “Diogenes Attackers,” (with capitalization like that) and to see them as a single entity that I am opposed to. I’ve sent back-channel messages to **Larry Borgia** in order to try to form an opposition band. I’m hoping to recruit **elucidator** as a like-minded compatriot to the cause. That way, I’ll feel assured of my own opinion. > > Except it was you who added to your own position early on by mischaracterizing us “Diogenes Attackers” (now with added quote tags!) as those who could not control ourselves. Which of course you knew was inaccurate. But carry on with your party because no matter how you try spin it, the fact is\*\* Dio\*\* is rude and disruptive according to most of us here… > In my most humble opinion. Well, if that is what most of us here think, I suppose I should think so too. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/225 "2010-09-20T19:46:13Z")
Again, I’d like to direct Firefox users to [this handy dandy add on](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7023/) that not only eliminates the original infestation, but destroys the nests and offshoots of the original pathogen\*. Turns a 6 page bullshit blizzard into a page and a half of substantive discussion, and another page of pointing and laughing at the shitstorm. 'cause, we all have jobs and kids and books to read and scifi shows to watch. Life’s too short to put up with internet slap fights \*not yet available for Chrome, dammit ---
**Author:** ![Bambro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Bambro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambro)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/226 "2010-09-20T19:51:23Z")
> [@multimediac17](#): > > \*Yo, my name is Dio > I get pitted all the time > But I become totally cool > When I make my posts rhyme > > So even if I’m being jerk > And saying all kinds of shit > The words flow together > So you can just ignore it > > You don’t need talent to rap > Yeah, that’s what I said > Hip-hop ain’t real music > End of thread\* fail ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/227 "2010-09-20T20:06:03Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > [@Crotalus](#): > > > > Didn’t you mean to say “oops, my statement that infertility is not a disability was factually incorrect”? > > It wasn’t factually incorrect. Infertility is not a disability just because a judge says so. It may have to be treated as such legally, but that doesn’t change my opinion. I don’t see how the person is disabled. And Israeli settlers are not criminals just because international law says so. Its just a horseshit law. Trolling hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/228 "2010-09-20T20:15:18Z")
> [@Bambro](#): > > > [@multimediac17](#): > > > > \*Yo, my name is Dio > > I get pitted all the time > > But I become totally cool > > When I make my posts rhyme > > > > So even if I’m being jerk > > And saying all kinds of shit > > The words flow together > > So you can just ignore it > > > > You don’t need talent to rap > > Yeah, that’s what I said > > Hip-hop ain’t real music > > End of thread\* > > fail Only if you try to sing it to the meter of Rio, as I first did. Then when I realized it was a rap, it rose to the level of mediocre. Speaking of which , you could make a “His name is Dio” song. But I won’t, cause I’m not good at parody. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/229 "2010-09-20T20:45:03Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > [@Contrapuntal](#): > > > > He was clearly referring to the legal definition. > > No I wasn’t. I never even thought about it in legal terms. I was thinking about the practical definition. No you weren’t. > [@](#): > > Are you being serious. Yes. > [@](#): > > Are these two statements equivalent? > > 1. I believe that abortion should be ilegal. > 2. Abortion is illegal. I absolutely assert it, and anyone who disagrees with me is an ignorant idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/230 "2010-09-20T20:49:15Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Speaking of which , you could make a “His name is Dio” song. But I won’t, cause I’m not good at parody. And I’m sure Dio doesn’t have the legs to be a showgirl. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/231 "2010-09-20T21:01:07Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > > [@Ludovic](#): > > > > Speaking of which , you could make a “His name is Dio” song. But I won’t, cause I’m not good at parody. > > And I’m sure Dio doesn’t have the legs to be a showgirl. Yes he does. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/232 "2010-09-20T21:11:48Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Speaking of which , you could make a “His name is Dio” song. But I won’t, cause I’m not good at parody. Only if it’s sung to the tune of the Aqua Teen Hunger Force theme song. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/233 "2010-09-20T21:15:51Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > > > And I’m sure Dio doesn’t have the legs to be a showgirl. > > Yes he does. No, he doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/234 "2010-09-20T21:19:33Z")
I liked when he claimed it was totally safe to drive while stoned, that he had done it plenty of times, and he offered us a site…from a pro-marjuana legalization website!!! > [@AmericanMaid](#): > > **Diogenes the Cynic** obviously has certain topics that flip him into asshole mode. He completely hijacked my Single Mother By Choice topic just because he wanted to get out some father’s rights rantings. And there was the child riding the subway topic he went cuckoo for cocoa puffs in so in summary he turns into a complete fuck nugget for topics including but not limited to children and pregnancy. Prime example of his my experience = fact BS: after a discussion on fertility and age in my Single Mothers topic his 24 karat observation was that his wife got pregnant in her 40’s so fertility issues aren’t a big deal. Can someone please make him go away? If you think that’s bad, he once told a guy who was seriously upset that his wife had suffered from a false pregnancy that said guy was “jerking us around,” that he was a baby and then Pitted the guy. Because there “was no baby to lose.” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/235 "2010-09-20T21:21:40Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > > [@bucketybuck](#): > > > > Yes he does. > > No, he doesn’t. The only reason he doesn’t is because some bullshit musical director who was probably some kind of drugged out stooge for the Bushistas said he doesn’t. That guy didn’t know jack and I’m here to tell you that his legs make Tina Turner’s look like the back end of a knock-kneed donkey. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/236 "2010-09-20T21:26:16Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > > > No, he doesn’t. > > The only reason he doesn’t is because some bullshit musical director who was probably some kind of drugged out stooge for the Bushistas said he doesn’t. That guy didn’t know jack and I’m here to tell you that his legs make Tina Turner’s look like the back end of a knock-kneed donkey. I never said that. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/237 "2010-09-20T21:41:47Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > > [@Contrapuntal](#): > > > > The only reason he doesn’t is because some bullshit musical director who was probably some kind of drugged out stooge for the Bushistas said he doesn’t. That guy didn’t know jack and I’m here to tell you that his legs make Tina Turner’s look like the back end of a knock-kneed donkey. > > I never said that. Yes you did. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/238 "2010-09-20T22:35:38Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > > > I never said that. > > Yes you did. No he didnt. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/239 "2010-09-20T22:38:14Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > > Yes you did. > > No he didnt. He might as well have. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/240 "2010-09-20T22:53:19Z")
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