# Diogenes, go take a nap

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 19, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306 "2010-09-19T17:42:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/421 "2010-09-22T19:59:07Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I don’t think people are trying to convert **Dio** to their point of view so much as they are trying to get him to acknowledge that there are other valid points-of-view in the world

I thought they were trying to get him to shut up, fuck up, and stop destroying otherwise good threads?

Personally I couldnt care less what he acknowledges, as long as he acknowledges it in the privacy of his bitter little mind, and stops littering threads with a trail of “I never said that”, and “I dont care I am right”.

Convert him? I just want him to go play in the corner like a good little retard, and stop bothering everybody.

Edit. By the way Doxy. As a wise man once said, “quit talking shite will ya”.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/422 "2010-09-22T20:01:56Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> > [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> > I don’t think people are trying to convert **Dio** to their point of view so much as they are trying to get him to acknowledge that there are other valid points-of-view in the world
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> I thought they were trying to get him to shut up, fuck up, and stop destroying otherwise good threads?

Same difference.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/423 "2010-09-22T20:05:39Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Edit. By the way Doxy. As a wise man once said, “quit talking shite will ya”.

Listen. I personally believe that it is taking Doxy the kind of restraint that takes the horse power of a million thoroughbred stallions not to respond in this thread again. So don’t you be goadin’ her.

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**Author:** ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/424 "2010-09-23T01:19:18Z")

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We’re still posting 11 page Pit threads about this knot head?

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/425 "2010-09-23T04:11:54Z")

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If you change your posts per page setting to 200, you’ll only be near the top of page three!

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/426 "2010-09-23T04:32:49Z")

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Y’all are gonna wish you just had a sandwich.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/427 "2010-09-23T04:45:46Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> Y’all are gonna wish you just had a sandwich.

Napkin Sandwich?

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/428 "2010-09-23T05:05:18Z")

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When I encounter a poster with opinions I consider overly rigid, I occasionally respond with forum-appropriate mockery. With DtC, I generally have an idea where he’s coming from and fill in the blanks with appropriate qualifiers myself. But most don’t do that:

> [@pepperlandgirl](#):
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> There used to be a poster on this board who did exactly the same thing, in thread after thread, _for nearly a fucking decade_. Ten years in Internet time is like a century in regular time, and you know what? The whole community let him do it again and again and again. The problem isn’t that **DtC** is a jerk. It’s not even that he has strong opinions. It’s that this community, in general, will _not_ let anything go. Oh, Diogenes has a strongly worded opinion about something? Then we better jump on it and argue and argue and argue and argue and never ever let it die because then we might _lose_ and he might _win_.

Yeah, this place resembles junior high. Someone must always be the designated punching bag. Honestly, I’m surprised that Dio has found himself in that slot. Let’s see: Israeli settlers in occupied Palestine are criminal, if somebody is a furry Dio thinks they have issues, polyamory is highly dubious and is in fact a bullshit coverup for bad male behavior – these don’t seem to me to be exceptional stances. (Not that I agree with them.) I guess it’s his crisp declarative sentences that get on most people’s nerves, while I find them hilarious. If I cared enough to address such arguments, I’d weigh the evidence for Dio’s contention, weigh the evidence against, and then give my take on the matter. That is, I’d construct an argument that _anticipates_ what my counterpart will say-- rather than immediately chiming in with the (usually obvious) response. Such an approach requires some empathy of course, something that Dio is claimed to lack, but which hardly seems in oversupply in this forum.

On the bright side, I’m glad that it’s occurred to somebody to _parody_ Dio’s stance. If they could imitate his sentence structure effectively, it would be even better. Appropos nothing, the discussion between **Nzinga, Seated, Hentor** and others on page 8 wasn’t too bad: kudos.  
**Doxy** et al: We’re here to fight ignorance. IMHO, simply agreeing to disagree isn’t appropriate outside of MPSIMS.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/429 "2010-09-23T06:13:52Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Good point. You have seen my level of nuance and raised me. Good show.  
> ETA: Now shut the fuck up about it.

😛

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/430 "2010-09-24T15:56:26Z")

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> [@PlainJain](#):
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> > [@Doxy](#):
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> > Now I know where you stand, and you know where I stand so there’s really no more point in our discussing it further, wouldn’t you say?
> 
> Nice try. If all I wanted was one opinion I would be on Wiki. We come here because we enjoy the back and forth.

You’ve obviously never read the discussion pages for the articles.

(I assume you’re talking about Wikipedia… “wiki” is a generic term which refers to a type of collaborative online editing tool.)

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/431 "2010-09-24T16:49:02Z")

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> [@psychonaut](#):
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> > [@PlainJain](#):
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> > Nice try. If all I wanted was one opinion I would be on Wiki. We come here because we enjoy the back and forth.
> 
> You’ve obviously never read the discussion pages for the articles.

You’re right, I haven’t but that wasn’t really the point. I was challenging **Doxy** ’s opinion that we should all come into a thread, state our point of view and that be the end of it. I think a continuing back and forth on issues is enjoyable and why a lot of us post here.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/432 "2010-09-24T17:17:06Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Yeah, this place resembles junior high. \<big snip\>

Well, the intelligence level reminds me of college (which I loved).  
With the emotional maturity of junior high (which I outgrew back in 4th grade).

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/433 "2010-09-24T17:32:18Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Well, the intelligence level reminds me of college (which I loved).  
> With the emotional maturity of junior high (which I outgrew back in 4th grade).

Ooooh. You’re not just mature. You’re _super_ mature. That is impressive. You should give the rest of us some tips.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/434 "2010-09-24T18:31:45Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> (which I outgrew back in 4th grade).

Just because you’re fat doesnt mean you are mature.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/435 "2010-09-24T22:12:44Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> > Yeah, this place resembles junior high. \<big snip\>
> 
> Well, the intelligence level reminds me of college (which I loved).  
> With the emotional maturity of junior high (which I outgrew back in 4th grade).

Yeah. There was always one kid who thought he was more mature than everyone else. Everyone fucking hated that kid.

So how’re you?

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/436 "2010-09-25T02:40:19Z")

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> [@Enuma\_Elish](#):
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> What everyone has to understand is this:
> 
> Diogenes the Cynic is actually in real life Bret Favre…and he’s having a really really bad year!

\*Hey, I’ve met Dio IRL and he makes better decisions than Brent.

[sub]\*i’v been drinkn.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/437 "2010-09-25T10:59:47Z")

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> [@imthjckaz](#):
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> > [@Enuma\_Elish](#):
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> > What everyone has to understand is this:
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> > Diogenes the Cynic is actually in real life Bret Favre…and he’s having a really really bad year!
> 
> \*Hey, I’ve met Dio IRL and he makes better decisions than Brent.
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> [sub]\*i’v been drinkn.[/sub]

True. Dio’s stint in New York didn’t end in an interception.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/438 "2010-09-25T16:17:26Z")

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I’m kind of curious as to why there was a concerted effort to bully **Doxy** into not posting anymore. Was this a carry-over from some other thread? Seemed kind of dickish, either way.

I also just wanted to get the last word in myself.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/439 "2010-09-25T16:24:56Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> I’m kind of curious as to why there was a concerted effort to bully **Doxy** into not posting anymore.

It seems like people are always picking on the paranoids.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-go-take-a-nap/554306/440 "2010-09-25T16:27:49Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> I’m kind of curious as to why there was a concerted effort to bully **Doxy** into not posting anymore. Was this a carry-over from some other thread? Seemed kind of dickish, either way.
> 
> I also just wanted to get the last word in myself.

I like Droxy a lot. I was just messin’ around with her.

And that should wrap everything up quite nicely, now that I’ve had the last word. I’ll go ahead and have a mod shut this down now.

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