# Diogenes the Cynic

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 9, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062 "2010-11-09T17:52:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/201 "2010-11-11T02:16:39Z")

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> [@descamisado](#):
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> Do Not Feel The Fire?  
> Do Not Fish The Fnord?  
> Do Not Fail To Fellate?  
> DNFTF - Devo album reference?

:smack:

That should be DNFTT.

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/202 "2010-11-11T02:47:20Z")

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> [@BottledBlondJeanie](#):
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> Those of you who say Dio is the target du jour, have you read the spanking thread? Two mod “knock it offs” to him before many comments about Dio. He even earned a third mod comment later in the thread. And his statement wasn’t accurate even though he said it over and over again.
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> I mostly just read threads now and thought that was a darned good topic before it became the Dio show. He’s like my kids,“yes you are” “no I’m not” repeat numerous times add powers of infinity, add 1 and then I send them to their rooms.

I have read the thread and that’s not what happened.

**Dio** commented. The next three comments were **astro** basically saying that someone who thinks spanking is equivalent to “assault and battery” (not a totally unheard of opinion) is “crazy”, **Guin** telling **Dio** he’d “jumped the shark”, then \*\*Wile E \*\*with a post that reads, in total, “Well, Dio has spoken. Thread over.” **Dio** responded (fairly calmly) to them, then gets a spate of people jumping on him, culminating with **kambuckta** telling him to “Fuck off Doggy, you’re being a righteous tool.” That’s what finally drew the mod attention and **Dio** was also warned at that point to not be inflammatory.

I only read the entire topic because of this thread. Originally, I only made it to the first “you’re blowing this out of proportion” before I rolled my eyes and moved on. It looked to me like it was shaping up to be a bunch of people spouting off a lot of crap about a situation they know almost nothing about, just like almost every single “advice” thread on this board. And look! I was right!

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**Author:** ![LilyoftheField](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@LilyoftheField](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheField)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/203 "2010-11-11T02:55:10Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Well, people HAVE been paid not to post before.

Gosh, what’s the going rate? I should at least get a tax break since all my lurking has been strictly pro bono…

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/204 "2010-11-11T06:33:20Z")

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> [@LilyoftheField](#):
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> Gosh, what’s the going rate? I should at least get a tax break since all my lurking has been strictly pro bono…

I don’t recall the details but as I recall one poster offered to pay another poster $100 if they would stop posting for six months.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/205 "2010-11-11T13:49:14Z")

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> [@BottledBlondJeanie](#):
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> Those of you who say Dio is the target du jour, have you read the spanking thread? Two mod “knock it offs” to him before many comments about Dio. He even earned a third mod comment later in the thread. And his statement wasn’t accurate even though he said it over and over again.
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> I mostly just read threads now and thought that was a darned good topic before it became the Dio show. He’s like my kids,“yes you are” “no I’m not” repeat numerous times add powers of infinity, add 1 and then I send them to their rooms.

Are you saying that the fact that he was warned by the moderator is evidence that his behavior was out of line?

I think your example of your two children arguing pointlessly back and forth is a perfect model for this situation. Just imagine instead that there were a dozen children on the “ya huh” side of the equation, and add in “you’re mean” and “that’s not fair.”

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/206 "2010-11-11T14:01:03Z")

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> [@C3](#):
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> \<snip\> It looked to me like it was shaping up to be a bunch of people spouting off a lot of crap about a situation they know almost nothing about, just like almost every single “advice” thread on this board. And look! I was right!

A nitpick; they’re certainly advice threads; I’d put the quotes around anything suggesting they were “good” advice threads. 🙂

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/207 "2010-11-11T14:29:47Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I don’t recall the details but as I recall one poster offered to pay another poster $100 if they would stop posting for six months.

I thought it involved **Liberal** and **pseudotriton ruber ruber** ; the former paid the latter $500 to stop posting for a year. I believe **prr** later returned the money and began posting sooner.

Or was it a one trillion dollar bet between two posters to see who could go without invoking Hitler the longest?

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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/208 "2010-11-11T17:00:36Z")

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> [@descamisado](#):
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> I thought it involved **Liberal** and **pseudotriton ruber ruber** ; the former paid the latter $500 to stop posting for a year. I believe **prr** later returned the money and began posting sooner.
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> Or was it a one trillion dollar bet between two posters to see who could go without invoking Hitler the longest?

And now you’ve mentioned him. You owe me one trillion dollars.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/209 "2010-11-11T17:15:31Z")

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:smack:

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/210 "2010-11-11T17:19:02Z")

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> [@descamisado](#):
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> :smack:

You should have just said “that little German guy with the funny mustache”.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/211 "2010-11-11T17:25:15Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> You should have just said “that little German guy with the funny mustache”.

You know who else invoked Goodwin’s Law?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/212 "2010-11-11T17:54:48Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> You should have just said “that little German guy with the funny mustache”.

Ah. Aunt Berniece.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/213 "2010-11-11T18:09:23Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> You know who else invoked Goodwin’s Law?

Goodwin? Damn the autocorrection feature on my Droid!

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/214 "2010-11-11T18:18:43Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Goodwin? Damn the autocorrection feature on my Droid!

Doris Kearns Goodwin’s Law: Somehow, somewhere, a president did something worse than this.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/215 "2010-11-11T19:35:21Z")

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> [@descamisado](#):
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> I thought it involved **Liberal** and **pseudotriton ruber ruber** ; the former paid the latter $500 to stop posting for a year. I believe **prr** later returned the money and began posting sooner.

Actually, I think the terms of the agreement were filled. Although IIRC, **Liberal** almost earned a suspension over that.

And I believe someone held the money in trust, so until if **prr** posted before the deadline, he wouldn’t get the money.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/216 "2010-11-12T18:52:05Z")

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Dio–do you honestly believe you are without fault here?

You haven’t been obnoxious, rude, out of line, a destroyer of threads, and otherwise a douchebag at least some of the time?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/217 "2010-11-12T18:53:18Z")

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Rude, maybe. “Destroyer of threads,” no.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/218 "2010-11-12T19:09:23Z")

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Do you think that maybe you could tone things down a bit?

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/219 "2010-11-12T19:30:27Z")

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Are you aware when you’re doing it? I considered PMing you when that thread started to go south, thinking, hey, maybe he doesn’t realize that he needs to chill the hell out. But then I figured, how could he not?

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/220 "2010-11-13T06:51:51Z")

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This is the question, is how could one not know that you are being a jerk? Or do they not care?

Or is like the anorexic who believes that people are looking at her because they are jealous?

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