# Diogenes the Cynic

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 9, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062 "2010-11-09T17:52:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/21 "2010-11-09T18:58:49Z")

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Okay, now you’ve done it. You’ve forced me to bring out the [Pallas Cats.](http://cheezdailysquee.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/pallas.png)

Before this continues, you should all know I have Japanese Flying Squirrels and I’m not afraid to use them.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/22 "2010-11-09T19:05:23Z")

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I think we need a rule for **Dio** , prohibiting him from talking about law. He’s not a lawyer, knows nothing about law, and is almost always wrong when he tries to talk about law. Like that other jackoff that kept passing out bogus medical advice.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/23 "2010-11-09T19:06:03Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> Okay, now you’ve done it. You’ve forced me to bring out the [Pallas Cats.](http://cheezdailysquee.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/pallas.png)
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> Before this continues, you should all know I have Japanese Flying Squirrels and I’m not afraid to use them.

After that, it’s the vampire squid. You know I will.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/24 "2010-11-09T19:14:49Z")

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Shit, now the guy didn’t even do anything, this is just a critique of character and stance. Well, there’s plenty of folks here who could do with a bit of that, if you are bored.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/25 "2010-11-09T19:18:15Z")

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No, he did something - he totally derailed a thread where an actual person was asking for actual help. Now it’s worthless.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/26 "2010-11-09T19:25:25Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I think we need a rule for **Dio** , prohibiting him from talking about law. He’s not a lawyer, knows nothing about law, and is almost always wrong when he tries to talk about law. Like that other jackoff that kept passing out bogus medical advice.

It’d be nicely symmetric if we also had a law that prevented lawyers from talking about anything except the law. There are far too many of them who act as if a few years of rhetoric and critical analysis qualifies them to talk knowledgeably about say, rocket science.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/27 "2010-11-09T19:28:25Z")

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> [@the lone cashew](#):
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> Again, I have to side with Diogenes here. Is there any better way to pad your post count than in a spanking thread?

The problem is with the [“padding” part](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=582475).

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/28 "2010-11-09T19:29:42Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> It’d be nicely symmetric if we also had a law that prevented lawyers from talking about anything except the law. There are far too many of them who act as if a few years of rhetoric and critical analysis qualifies them to talk knowledgeably about say, rocket science.

Really?

I have to say that in eleven years on the board, I don’t recall one instance of a lawyer trying to pretend expertise in rocket science.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/29 "2010-11-09T19:30:54Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> The problem is with the [“padding” part](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=582475).

50,000 posts is sad. The fact that he’s proud of it is fucking hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/30 "2010-11-09T19:37:57Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I think we need a rule for **Dio** , prohibiting him from talking about law. He’s not a lawyer, knows nothing about law, and is almost always wrong when he tries to talk about law. Like that other jackoff that kept passing out bogus medical advice.

So many legal questions are fair game for the general population and don’t require much more than personal experience or common sense. We’re not asking him to handle the appeal on a capital case so let him speak.

I was always taught that it takes two to tango. I’ve walked away from many a dance in my short stay here and it seems to work fairly well for me.

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**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/31 "2010-11-09T19:38:33Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> 50,000 posts is sad. The fact that he’s proud of it is fucking hilarious.

Not defending him, but that’s not all that insane when you compare him to, say, **ACM**.

(17 PPD to ~24 PPD).

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/32 "2010-11-09T19:41:15Z")

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Quite. It’s simple length of time.

ETA: Speaking of, holy crap when did I get 11k posts my own self? I used to be a professional lurker.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/33 "2010-11-09T19:42:07Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> No he’s not - check his title under his Username: he’s a self-proclaimed “Expert”
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> That’s all we need to know - as far as \*\*Dio \*\*is concerned, he is The Expert
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> We should all recognize that there is no arguing with The Expert and stop trying.

You’ve inspired me to change my title. Man, that is the best $7.50 I ever accidentally spent. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/34 "2010-11-09T19:43:59Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> Okay, now you’ve done it. You’ve forced me to bring out the [Pallas Cats.](http://cheezdailysquee.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/pallas.png)
> 
> Before this continues, you should all know I have Japanese Flying Squirrels and I’m not afraid to use them.

I see your pallas cats, and raise you one [Nicolas Cage with a bird on his head.](http://www.esportsea.com/global/media_preview.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyourargumentisinvalid.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2008%2F05%2Fmy_hair_is_a_bird-257x300.jpg)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/35 "2010-11-09T19:44:39Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Really?
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> I have to say that in eleven years on the board, I don’t recall one instance of a lawyer trying to pretend expertise in rocket science.

Install irony detection chip. Re-read.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/36 "2010-11-09T19:47:13Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I have to say that in eleven years on the board, I don’t recall one instance of a lawyer trying to pretend expertise in rocket science.

Nah, this is in real life. I’ve met plenty of lawyers who think they’re biochemists, engineers, or computer scientists, when they really aren’t.  
Of course, other professionals are guilty of the same shit, but lawyers seem particularly egregious about it.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/37 "2010-11-09T19:49:24Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> No, he did something - he totally derailed a thread where an actual person was asking for actual help. Now it’s worthless.

Sorry, he posted a strong opinion, and 90% of the subsequent posters decided to spend their time arguing with him instead of helping the OP.

Blame them for ruining the thread, none of them had to respond to his opinion, not even once.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/38 "2010-11-09T19:51:16Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Sorry, he posted a strong opinion, and 90% of the subsequent posters decided to spend their time arguing with him instead of helping the OP.
> 
> Blame them for ruining the thread, none of them had to respond to his opinion, not even once.

It wasnt an opinion, it was A FACT!!!

His post is my cite.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/39 "2010-11-09T19:52:12Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I think we need a rule for **Dio** , prohibiting him from talking about law. He’s not a lawyer, knows nothing about law, and is almost always wrong when he tries to talk about law. Like that other jackoff that kept passing out bogus medical advice.

Dr. Phil?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/40 "2010-11-09T19:55:42Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Sorry, he posted a strong opinion, and 90% of the subsequent posters decided to spend their time arguing with him instead of helping the OP.
> 
> Blame them for ruining the thread, none of them had to respond to his opinion, not even once.

So the fact that he posted 35 times in that thread (out of 187 total posts), five times more than the OP, has nothing to do with anything?

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