# Diogenes the Cynic **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 9, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062 "2010-11-09T17:52:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/81 "2010-11-09T23:18:23Z")
My favorite part of this has only really just begun. Now that **Dio** ’s white knights are here, the new Usual Suspects, as it were, this thread is going to turn into the vast majority of the board vs. **Dio** and his water carriers. Which will in turn eventually generate a wave of sympathy for **Dio** because poor, pitiful him has to carry the burden of being the only person in the world with the right answers, and why don’t we just lay off? Lather. Rinse. Repeat. It’s happened so many times that it’s completely predictable. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/82 "2010-11-09T23:20:55Z")
Still mildly entertaining, though. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/83 "2010-11-09T23:23:00Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > What happened to you man? You used to be cool. I joined this board in 2000 and have over 32,000 posts. If there was a time when Dio was cool, it must have been before I got here. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/84 "2010-11-09T23:25:15Z")
I’ve no love for **Dio** and should find a thread like this entertaining, but this is destined to do nothing more than feed into his persecution complex and bolster his self-image as the lone paladin of vicitimized women and children everywhere. I don’t like **Doors** , either; but when the man is right, he is right. ---
**Author:** ![Any\_Other\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f17d59/32.png) [@Any\_Other\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Any_Other_Name)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/85 "2010-11-09T23:26:52Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > The problem is with the [“padding” part](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=582475). I don’t want to frighten anyone but … His first 50,000 posts work out to 6250 per year. Since then, he’s made 961 posts over 20 days which is a rate of 17,500 per YEAR! At this rate, he’ll hit 100,000 posts before 2014! We’re doomed, I tell you … doomed as doomed can be … ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/86 "2010-11-09T23:27:42Z")
Another **Diogenes the Cynic** thread? Really? Why? Look, for whatever reason, the mods have decided his behavior doesn’t deserve banning. Ok, fine, whatever. At this point he’s not even worth dealing with as a person. Just think of him like a force of nature. He builds around a low pressure system and then he huffs and puffs and blows your thread down. Arguing with him, or even pitting him, is pretty much like standing in the middle of a Kansas field and shouting at a [supercell](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercell). Doing it once I can kind of understand. But at some point you should just shrug your shoulders, head into the cellar, and let it blow itself out. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/87 "2010-11-09T23:28:37Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > the lone paladin That’s slang for ‘penis’, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/88 "2010-11-09T23:30:11Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Yeah, but he used to get positive attention. So that’s like jackin’ it to Marilyn Monroe with baby powder scented Vaseline and finishing into a silk hankie and washing your hand in flowery soap and taking a walk outside in the brisk air with a smile on your face and a whistle in your heart, feeling released and relieved. > > Now he is just going for any kind of attention he can get, which is like jacking it using used Crisco while leering at reruns of Snookie on The Jersey Shore, hating yourself a bit more with each animal grunt as the sweat drips off your lip and onto your extended tongue and you taste the salty shame and your self disgust as your body begins to shudder and your breath comes in jagged, ragged convulsions and you spill your humiliated seed into a stiff and filthy gym sock. See the difference there? > [@Shodan](#): > > Not really. Could you go over it again? Slower this time. And in more detail. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/89 "2010-11-09T23:40:25Z")
My issue with **Diogenes** ’s involvement in the thread is that the legality of the matter is utterly irrelevant to the topic of the thread. Even if we assume that his assertion is absolutely correct, the OP of the thread isn’t asking whether it is legal and if she should press charges, she’s asking how to handle the situation. If it is illegal for him to spank the child without her consent, that doesn’t prevent her from allowing him to do so, if she so chose, or perhaps deciding she’s the only one that gets to. And, conversely, even if the behavior of the boyfriend is completely legal, it doesn’t mean that he should continue to violate her wishes about how the child should be disciplined. Neither helps resolve the situation of dealing with whether spanking is appropriate, potential inconsistencies in discipline, the role of the boyfriend in the child’s life, and the meshing of their families. The law is not the arbitor of morality, nor is it useful for handling these sorts of complicated domestic dispute. It’s fine to take her side in the discussion, I just don’t think any of that information added anything to the issue and just proceeded to complicate it and clutter the thread. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/90 "2010-11-09T23:42:18Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Yeah, but he used to get positive attention. So that’s like jackin’ it to Marilyn Monroe with baby powder scented Vaseline and finishing into a silk hankie and washing your hand in flowery soap and taking a walk outside in the brisk air with a smile on your face and a whistle in your heart, feeling released and relieved. > > Now he is just going for any kind of attention he can get, which is like jacking it using used Crisco while leering at reruns of Snookie on The Jersey Shore, hating yourself a bit more with each animal grunt as the sweat drips off your lip and onto your extended tongue and you taste the salty shame and your self disgust as your body begins to shudder and your breath comes in jagged, ragged convulsions and you spill your humiliated seed into a stiff and filthy gym sock. See the difference there? The difference? You must be one of those wimminfolk, thinking all sensual and shit. Whacking off is whacking off, and Dio just popped his load. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/91 "2010-11-09T23:52:34Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > My favorite part of this has only really just begun. Now that **Dio** ’s white knights are here, the new Usual Suspects, as it were, this thread is going to turn into the vast majority of the board vs. **Dio** and his water carriers. Which will in turn eventually generate a wave of sympathy for **Dio** because poor, pitiful him has to carry the burden of being the only person in the world with the right answers, and why don’t we just lay off? > > Lather. Rinse. Repeat. It’s happened so many times that it’s completely predictable. If you’re referring to me as a water-carrier, why don’t you eat shit. Far be it from me to interrupt your fantasies about **Diogenes** masturbating. Seems like the only thing going on the SDMB these days. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/92 "2010-11-10T00:09:48Z")
So, how 'bout that Sarah Palin, huh? She sure is stupid and dangerous. Man I miss having political knock-down drag-outs in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/93 "2010-11-10T00:14:37Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > I’ve no love for **Dio** and should find a thread like this entertaining, but this is destined to do nothing more than feed into his persecution complex and bolster his self-image as the lone paladin of vicitimized women and children everywhere. I don’t have any such self-image. This is a pure projection by others. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/94 "2010-11-10T00:21:17Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > I’ve no love for **Dio** and should find a thread like this entertaining, but this is destined to do nothing more than feed into his persecution complex and bolster his self-image as the lone paladin of vicitimized women and children everywhere. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t have any such self-image. This is a pure projection by others. Yeah, I always thought it was **Der Trihs** who saw himself that way… Fuckin’ John Boehner. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/95 "2010-11-10T00:23:15Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t have any such self-image. This is a pure projection by others. Whatever. Me and my homey Mel are going to go smack our Ukrainian wives around, so I don’t have any more time to talk about you. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/96 "2010-11-10T00:27:37Z")
Wouldn’t surprise me. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/97 "2010-11-10T00:36:29Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Yeah, but he used to get positive attention. So that’s like jackin’ it to Marilyn Monroe with baby powder scented Vaseline and finishing into a silk hankie and washing your hand in flowery soap and taking a walk outside in the brisk air with a smile on your face and a whistle in your heart, feeling released and relieved. > > Now he is just going for any kind of attention he can get, which is like jacking it using used Crisco while leering at reruns of Snookie on The Jersey Shore, hating yourself a bit more with each animal grunt as the sweat drips off your lip and onto your extended tongue and you taste the salty shame and your self disgust as your body begins to shudder and your breath comes in jagged, ragged convulsions and you spill your humiliated seed into a stiff and filthy gym sock. See the difference there? If this was practical as a sig line I’d ask to use it. You really need your own line of greeting cards. ---
**Author:** ![rolandgunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@rolandgunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rolandgunslinger)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/98 "2010-11-10T00:39:47Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Yeah, but he used to get positive attention. So that’s like jackin’ it to Marilyn Monroe with baby powder scented Vaseline and finishing into a silk hankie and washing your hand in flowery soap and taking a walk outside in the brisk air with a smile on your face and a whistle in your heart, feeling released and relieved. > > Now he is just going for any kind of attention he can get, which is like jacking it using used Crisco while leering at reruns of Snookie on The Jersey Shore, hating yourself a bit more with each animal grunt as the sweat drips off your lip and onto your extended tongue and you taste the salty shame and your self disgust as your body begins to shudder and your breath comes in jagged, ragged convulsions and you spill your humiliated seed into a stiff and filthy gym sock. See the difference there? “That’s Gold Jerry! Gold!” ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/99 "2010-11-10T01:20:51Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > You guys will be sorry when \*\*Dio \*\*is gone … which if his ‘suicide by mod’ move works, will be any minute now. He doesn’t even get ‘official’ warnings for what would get any other poster a perma-ban. The thread in ATMB that contains most of his current whining was not for an official rebuke, but for the threat of a possible warning. He has got pictures of Little Ed with his pants down, I am sure of it. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/100 "2010-11-10T01:22:03Z")
It’s simple. Whether he realizes it or not, some of Dio’s behavior is trolling. But, he does contribute sometimes, so the mods are hesitant to do anything. It’s similar to Der Trihs, who, BTW, has gotten a lot better. And, yes, I do believe you can troll without necessarily realizing it, especially with someone like Dio who will not accept the definitions of others. It’s basically a matter of knowing that a particular posting style causes problems on this board, and not stopping it. The difference with Dio is that I think he doesn’t stop out of some pride, rather than with the intent to piss people off. In his mind, people _shouldn’t_ be pissed off at what he says, so that’s enough to allow him to say what he wants. The problem is, even knowing this, his actions are the same as a troll, and thus he is trolling. I’m very glad he got an admonishment to stop doing it. But the bigger offense is that he hijacks and threadshits, to the point that what was a useful topic is now not one. Why the mods don’t just force Dio to start his own thread when this stuff happens, I’ll never know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062.md?page=6)