# Diogenes the Cynic

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 9, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062 "2010-11-09T17:52:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/101 "2010-11-10T01:25:27Z")

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Can we please just sticky this thread and be done with it?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/102 "2010-11-10T01:25:48Z")

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I’m not the one who does the hijacking. Most every post I make is in response to somebody else.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/103 "2010-11-10T01:42:31Z")

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/104 "2010-11-10T01:48:56Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I’m not the one who does the hijacking. Most every post I make is in response to somebody else.

But if ten people say variations of X you can reply to the entire concept of X.

But that would be too easy. Replying to every instance of X gets you more posts and more attention.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/105 "2010-11-10T01:54:03Z")

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I don’t give a fuck about attention. If I don’t respond to every post individually then people start accusing me of ignoring them or not answering the questions. I am not just talking to myself in those threads.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/106 "2010-11-10T01:59:14Z")

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/107 "2010-11-10T02:14:45Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I don’t give a fuck about attention…

You look at me! Look at me and listen to me. _We all need attention._ All of us dopers. [It is natural.](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zp2LXPlMjGQ/TKGx3fUC6VI/AAAAAAAAM40/AymseCBBPDs/s1600/attention-whore3.jpg)

Anyhow, I’m still a fan, Dio. My channel is always tuned to the Dio show. You’re quite entertaining and you taught me more important lessons about Christianity than 10 years of Bible study and and 29 years of deprogramming put together. So you can’t beat that.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/108 "2010-11-10T02:19:57Z")

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Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/109 "2010-11-10T02:49:33Z")

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The thing is Dio, you have to learn to accept the fact that sometimes people are going to be wrong. Tell them what you think is right and once you’ve got the message across, let it go. You don’t have an obligation to fix every mistake on the internet.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/110 "2010-11-10T02:52:30Z")

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What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they’ll keep being [wrong](http://xkcd.com/386/).

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**Author:** ![John\_D\_Adamo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@John\_D\_Adamo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_D_Adamo)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/111 "2010-11-10T03:00:39Z")

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Come on, is this really the worst people have to complain about? This is the second Pit thread on **Dio** in the last two weeks and the third in the last month and a half. In the spanking thread provided, all **Dio** did was voice his opinion, people started debating him on it, and it turned into a topical conversation. Personally, although he is a little overboard sometimes (as are we all), he has seemed to be a knowledgeable poster over the years and I see no reason to rake the man over the coals incessantly.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/112 "2010-11-10T03:07:42Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I don’t give a fuck about attention. If I don’t respond to every post individually then people start accusing me of ignoring them or not answering the questions. I am not just talking to myself in those threads.

Yep. I agree 100% with his Dioness on this issue. I think it’s ridiculous that people get on Dio’s ass for responding to questions or comments that other posters direct at Dio.

The real problem is his absolute stances and general dumbassery (e.g., starting with a badly explained extreme position, then scaling it back and explaining it), not the fact that he responds to questions and comments directed at him.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/113 "2010-11-10T03:11:07Z")

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**Diogenes** ’ postings often include annoying dumbassery.

On the other hand, his remarks in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=584288) on the paranormal have been logical, temperate and useful.

The contributions of both **Dio** and another oft-reviled poster ( **Der Trihs** ) are valuable even if one only looks at their service in the cause of anti-woo.

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/114 "2010-11-10T03:16:41Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they’ll keep being [wrong](http://xkcd.com/386/).

Perhaps you should, for your health if nothing else. You spend an inordinate amount of time posting here, and most of your posts are absolutist responses to opinions, whereby you dismiss those opinions and state your opinion as fact.

Very bizarre. Your posting here what 17 times a day leads me to believe you should take a break from message boards and try to address your apparent psychological insecurities wrt to real life.

You are “acting out”, albeit on a message board, but you obviously have some self-confidence issues.

Perhaps a good time to take a break. I wish you the best.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/115 "2010-11-10T03:31:31Z")

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Well, let’s see, there was [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=326574).

Or [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=335890).

Oh, here’s a [good one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=571382)!  
I love this [one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=210807)! (In this case, it wasn’t so much his views as how he expressed them, calling kids with allergies “freaks” and “wussies”)

Oh, and the U.S. should have [ignored Hitler and Japan declaring war on us](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=573999). And that those who support aerial bombing also support burning toddlers. (Note – this is about the atomic bomb, a controversial subject. But it’s still turned into another episode of “The Dio Show”)

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/116 "2010-11-10T03:52:25Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> [Well, you asked for it.](http://tolweb.org/onlinecontributors/app?service=external/ViewImageData&sp=25151)
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> [My previous thread has a lot more information.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=579543) And a lot more images.
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> [Also, it can turn itself inside-out.](http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/01/100203-squid-vampire-threatened-video/)

You have to respect something that can voluntarily turn itself inside out.

> [@John\_D\_Adamo](#):
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> Come on, is this really the worst people have to complain about? This is the second Pit thread on **Dio** in the last two weeks and the third in the last month and a half. In the spanking thread provided, all **Dio** did was voice his opinion, people started debating him on it, and it turned into a topical conversation…

Except his opinion was that everyone else was telling the woman that she doesn’t have a right to decide who disciplines her child which was so far from what was actually being said that it was in the next galaxy. And if anyone tried to explain this to him they were told they were denying the mother her parental rights and in favor of child abuse.

I got sucked in, too. I knew better. I knew what would happen. I plead temporary insanity and all that. But I am trying to make amends for my part by posting cute pictures.

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/117 "2010-11-10T03:54:41Z")

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> [@Turek](#):
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> No, it’s unacceptable to post your opinion and foist it off as irrefutable fact.
> 
> OVER.
> 
> And OVER.
> 
> And OVER.
> 
> And OVER.
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> You ruin any thread you participate in. You’re thread poison. We are sick to death of the shit spewing out of your blowhole.
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> In short, shut the fuck up already.

[Mod hat off]  
Or, failing that, you might consider toning down the absolutist tone of your _pronunciamenti_.

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**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/118 "2010-11-10T04:14:01Z")

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And now we have [this recently locked thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=584950), where **Diogenes** seems to provoke **Blake** into having some sort of seizure. In this example he uses his usual proof by repeated assertion, combined with a bizarre accusation of Creationism.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/119 "2010-11-10T04:16:53Z")

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> [@Shmendrik](#):
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> … **Diogenes** seems to provoke **Blake** into having some sort of seizure…

Hahahaa! I’m cracking up. Blake was _freaking out_!!

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**Author:** ![nikonikosuru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@nikonikosuru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nikonikosuru)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-cynic/560062/120 "2010-11-10T04:39:30Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> I joke about needing a sticky thread for him but what we really need is a support group for the rest of us. When someone feels an urge to respond to one of his posts we PM our sponsor who hopefully talks us out of it. By now we all should know how attempting to talk to him is going to go. We are tempted to reason with him hoping we might actually get through to him but it’s not going to happen. He is never going to say “I see your point”, it will always be “you all are wrong and I’m right and that’s that”. And whenever we do respond to him we just get rewarded with frustration and endless pit threads. We should pit ourselves for falling for it yet again.
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> If not a support group then a panic button that will lock us out of posting for 15 minutes and send us to the lolcat site or daily squee.

I am in support of this 100%.  
Or even better yet, let’s pool together some money and buy Dio his own message board. He can call it “The Straight Dio” where everything he says will always be right, of course. To keep him placated we can even e-mail questions for him to answer. He’ll be busy pulling the answer out of his ass and typing “I’m always right and you’re always wrong!” but at least it’ll keep that shit off of this board. Hell, I’d chip in $5 a year for that.

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