# Diogenes the Fucking Dickhead Asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 26, 2003, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676 "2003-02-26T17:25:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/41 "2003-02-26T21:05:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*Or how all male virgins over 25 are nothing but fucking losers, and most women who are virgins are too uptight and no guy likes to date a virgin because the sex sucks? \*\* If she’s a virgin, isn’t the sex by definition non-existant? ---
**Author:** ![WillSantini](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ed8c4c/32.png) [@WillSantini](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillSantini)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/42 "2003-02-26T21:09:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*The Marines are technically part of the Navy, and I remember getting along with them ok-- mostly because we knew they could kick our asses. Except for the SEALS that is, nobody fucks with the SEALS. \*\* The Marine Corps is not part of the Navy. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/43 "2003-02-26T21:32:05Z")
The Marine Corps is a part of the Department of the Navy. It’s just a technical organizational distinction. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/44 "2003-02-26T21:43:17Z")
I hate it when someone comes out of a Pitting looking better than when they went in. Actually, I don’t hate it. Well done, **DtC**. Now I am off to try to find the post that got **BURNER** sent to SDMB Sheol. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/45 "2003-02-26T21:44:28Z")
Just to muddle things up more, I didn’t think that marine critter was milking the patriotism thing. The saluting and shit is pretty typical behavior for some marines, impending war or not. He’s from around here, so the local press has covered him some. He doesn’t come off as someone who is basing his success on his military status. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/46 "2003-02-26T22:15:11Z")
Wow, a compliment from **Shodan** , what a great pit thread. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/47 "2003-02-26T22:28:44Z")
Aw, he’s an asshole, but he’s a _cute_ asshole! ---
**Author:** ![WillSantini](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ed8c4c/32.png) [@WillSantini](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillSantini)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/48 "2003-02-26T23:12:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*The Marine Corps is a part of the Department of the Navy. It’s just a technical organizational distinction. \*\* The Dept of the Navy has been renamed The Dept of the Navy and Marine Corps. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/49 "2003-02-26T23:30:50Z")
> [@](#): > > **Willsantini** said: > The Dept of the Navy has been renamed The Dept of the Navy and Marine Corps. Well, I’ll be damned. I didn’t know that. It was just the Dept. of the Navy when I was in (mid 80’s). ---
**Author:** ![Scruloose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Scruloose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scruloose)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2003, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/50 "2003-02-26T23:45:46Z")
Yeah, well they’ll still put Marines on Navy ships. Sheep get too seasick. 😃 ::Shields up!:: ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/51 "2003-02-27T00:42:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SandyHook \* > **Whether DtC was serious or not, it was a terrible thing to say. How does wishing that Marine dead differ significantly from the, “Suicide is always an answer,” response to the person who posted the sucidial OP a few days ago.** It differs because the suicidal(and vulnerable) person started the thread and the dumb comment was right in his/her face. I’m not defending or condemning **Diogenes** , I just think that the above is not a very useful comparison. ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/52 "2003-02-27T01:51:58Z")
What the…? I posted this afternoon that since it seemed we had cleared the air that this thread could be closed, but that post must have gotten lost in the vapors! Heck, I’ve been known to have an…interesting sense of humor at times, too, but this just really got under my skin. It seems that olive branches have been extended and accepted both ways, though, so if anyone else has a complaint or grudge, kindly take it to your own sandbox. Again, I’m not sorry for lashing against the specific comment, I take great issue with wishing ill on our servicemen/women, but I understand your intent and given that context, eh, bygones. ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/53 "2003-02-27T02:46:28Z")
My 2 cents: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by thinksnow \* > Again, I’m not sorry for lashing against the specific comment, Well you _should_ be. Diogenes was obviously being facetious, and has said as much. He also apologized (quite contritely, I might add) _both_ in the original thread and in this one, even though your initial reaction to the situation was WAY over the top. Personally, I think you got off too easy; If I were you, I would leave well enough alone and not go back and say things like you’re not sorry. > [@](#): > > I take great issue with wishing ill on our servicemen/women, but I understand your intent and given that context, eh, bygones. Yeah, but that’s _your_ issue. You misinterpreted a joke (albeit a tasteless one) as some sort of personal attack. You can’t expect everyone to tiptoe around you just because you have an issue with the service. ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/54 "2003-02-27T03:27:45Z")
blowero, I’m pretty sure **thinksnow** doesn’t have “an issue with the service”. He was one of the few, the proud, the Marines. He himself has said that once a Marine, always a Marine. ---
**Author:** ![Cessandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cessandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cessandra)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/55 "2003-02-27T04:14:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*Knee-jerk reaction. (Sorry, **Cessandra** ) \*\* Excuse me for not reading most of this thread, but I wanted to say that you were forgiven before you even made the comment. Most people make the same assumption you did, and I prefer to find it humorous than to be offended. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/56 "2003-02-27T07:20:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GingerOfTheNorth \* > \*\*blowero, I’m pretty sure **thinksnow** doesn’t have “an issue with the service”. He was one of the few, the proud, the Marines. He himself has said that once a Marine, always a Marine. \*\* Well he said, “I take great issue with wishing ill on our servicemen/women”, when it’s pretty obvious that Diogenes was NOT doing so. Diogenes was simply making an offhand coment about a particular singer who happens to be a Marine. I don’t think that warrants calling someone a “Fucking Dickhead Asshole”, especially after they already apologized. If **thinksnow** missed the fact that it was not a serious statement because of his own personal feelings as a Marine, then that is indeed _his_ issue. I’m curious as to why you think otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/57 "2003-02-27T08:03:40Z")
Everyone involved with _American Idol_ ought to be vapourized in the most hyperbolic way possible. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/58 "2003-02-27T08:11:37Z")
Damn … I remember reading a really funny joke about the Air Force in an issue of Playboy, but I can’t remember it all. It involves cable television. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/59 "2003-02-27T08:13:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \* > \*\*Everyone involved with _American Idol_ ought to be vapourized in the most hyperbolic way possible. > > That is all. \*\* Here, here!!! ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2003, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676/60 "2003-02-27T17:51:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*blowero \*\* > Well he said, “I take great issue with wishing ill on our servicemen/women”, when it’s pretty obvious that Diogenes was NOT doing so. Diogenes was simply making an offhand coment about a particular singer who happens to be a Marine. I don’t think that warrants calling someone a “Fucking Dickhead Asshole”, especially after they already apologized. If **thinksnow** missed the fact that it was not a serious statement because of his own personal feelings as a Marine, then that is indeed _his_ issue. I’m curious as to why you think otherwise. I take great issue with anyone wishing ill toward our servicemen,and has been noted over and over and over again, what is “obvious” to one is not obvious to another. Kudos to you for your superior observational skills. At the time I posted the OP, he had not yet apologized and once he did, once he had made his intent clear even noting that he thought the comment might have been a bit much, I was over it. I would be just as irked if I saw someone do the same thing again today. It’s my own personal feelings as an American, as a former serviceman, and as my own personal self, so yeah, it is _my_ issue, and I said as much, but **DtC** and I seem to have reached an understanding and I bear him no ill will or hard feelings, so…what’s your story? Ease up, it’s over- the two parties directly involved have cleared the air. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-the-fucking-dickhead-asshole/157676.md?page=4)