# Diogenes: would you kindly just shut the fuck up already? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 11, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972 "2010-08-11T20:05:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/81 "2010-08-12T01:47:01Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > The only thing that amazes me about Dio and this board is that everyone else recognizes his bullshit, since it is completely in line with the liberal douche philosophy shared by lots of other posters here (i.e., that he has THE ANSWER and isn’t interested in hearing other opinions on the matter; things should be the way he thinks they should, other people’s valid choices and free exchanges be damned). > > I’ve almost put him into the Der Trihs zone (i.e., don’t respond to him because he’ll just spew the same thing he’s already spewed instead of responding to what I actually said), but Dio’s rap above has kept him out of that zone for now. I’m asking this seriously – why do you post here, **Rand Rover**. You’ve made it quite clear that we’re nothing but “liberal douches”, so why bother? This is not meant to be offensive, or snarky. I’m genuinely curious. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/82 "2010-08-12T01:48:49Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > [@Autolycus](#): > > > > In my mind, the Dio Zone, the Der Trihs Holodeck, and the Rand Rover Rumpus Room are all adjacent to each other in a lower circle of the UnderDope. Although, it must be said that brief visits are certainly enjoyable. > > Well, of course I anticipated the “you do that too!!” response that is de rigeur here for some reason. But I think you are wrong. I respond to the specific claims that people post in response to my posts. I don’t just once again assert the same assertion I asserted in the post they responded to. > > Please feel free to post examples of me doing what you are accusing me of doing, if you have them. Or don’t and show yourself to be of the teeming millions of reflexive “you are a hypocrite” posters this place is lousy with. I didn’t specifically accuse you of anything. Perhaps I should have been more descriptive as not to unneccessarily rile your delicate feathers. I merely find you, Dio, and Der Trihs to engage in posting styles that lead to, how shall I say, controversy. Your respective zones are adjacent but not identical.　　I hope that makes you feel better. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/83 "2010-08-12T01:49:37Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > > The only thing that amazes me about Dio and this board is that everyone else recognizes his bullshit, since it is completely in line with the liberal douche philosophy shared by lots of other posters here (i.e., that he has THE ANSWER and isn’t interested in hearing other opinions on the matter; things should be the way he thinks they should, other people’s valid choices and free exchanges be damned). > > > > I’ve almost put him into the Der Trihs zone (i.e., don’t respond to him because he’ll just spew the same thing he’s already spewed instead of responding to what I actually said), but Dio’s rap above has kept him out of that zone for now. > > I’m asking this seriously – why do you post here, **Rand Rover**. You’ve made it quite clear that we’re nothing but “liberal douches”, so why bother? This is not meant to be offensive, or snarky. I’m genuinely curious. I like fighting ignorance. And I like laughing at stupid people. I’ve hit the motherlode on both counts here. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/84 "2010-08-12T01:52:10Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > > Well, of course I anticipated the “you do that too!!” response that is de rigeur here for some reason. But I think you are wrong. I respond to the specific claims that people post in response to my posts. I don’t just once again assert the same assertion I asserted in the post they responded to. > > > > Please feel free to post examples of me doing what you are accusing me of doing, if you have them. Or don’t and show yourself to be of the teeming millions of reflexive “you are a hypocrite” posters this place is lousy with. > > I didn’t specifically accuse you of anything. Perhaps I should have been more descriptive as not to unneccessarily rile your delicate feathers. I merely find you, Dio, and Der Trihs to engage in posting styles that lead to, how shall I say, controversy. Your respective zones are adjacent but not identical.　　I hope that makes you feel better. Yeah, I re-read your post after posting mine, and I realize you weren’t doing the reflexive “you do it too!” thing. So, I apologize and retract my previous post. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/85 "2010-08-12T02:02:05Z")
Yo my name is Ender and I’m here to say if you don’t dig me you must be a homosexual you best be steppin off on the double for girls of the world ain’t nuthin but trouble (trouble trouble) whatcha want? A tea party with Pooh and Tigger? I make a mean martini with my shaker and jigga. Secant tangent cosine sine 3.14159 You think you know my hood? You think my rhymes are all clutch? I typed this whole rap up on my iPod touch. word to your father :throws down mike: fuckin Mike. Better know your place. Better know how to heal. Oh don’t forget to tip your waitress and please try the veal. Good night 8 mile I love you! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/86 "2010-08-12T02:06:18Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I like fighting ignorance. And I like laughing at stupid people. I’ve hit the motherlode on both counts here. Nobody likes you. Go away and die as soon as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/87 "2010-08-12T02:09:35Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > [@Anaamika](#): > > > > You know what? No. I pit the posters that insist on arguing with him and trying to convince him and change his mind. Oh noooooes. Someone is wrong on the Internet! We must fix it! > > > > Can’t we just ignore him? No the entire thread must revolve around him. This fucking pit thread should be made into a sticky: If Diogenes comes out with an absolute on something, please to ignore. > > Seriously. STOP RESPONDING TO HIM! > > But. . . I was trying to get him to enter an 8 Mile style rap battle with me in the CS thread I bickered with him in. You’ve got to admit, that would have at least been worth it. I would totally pay $20 to see you both in a rap battle of the **Dio** s. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/88 "2010-08-12T02:31:06Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > > I like fighting ignorance. And I like laughing at stupid people. I’ve hit the motherlode on both counts here. > > Nobody likes you. Go away and die as soon as possible. You got us twisted homie, that’s not how we roll in this thread. It’s like this, dog : you got beef with the **Rover** you pick up a mic and just spit it, honkie style. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/89 "2010-08-12T02:33:14Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > > I like fighting ignorance. And I like laughing at stupid people. I’ve hit the motherlode on both counts here. > > Nobody likes you. Go away and die as soon as possible. Please don’t wish death on other posters. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/90 "2010-08-12T02:35:17Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > I bought some really nice cheese the other day, a Cambozola. Creamy with a hint of mushrooms, it went so well with the quatro fromage Triscuits. I wish it didn’t have the rind on it, that’s kinda a pain in the ass to cut off but damn that was some tasty dedgum cheese. I love you. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/91 "2010-08-12T02:43:09Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > In my mind, the Dio Zone, the Der Trihs Holodeck, and the Rand Rover Rumpus Room are all adjacent to each other in a lower circle of the UnderDope. Although, it must be said that brief visits are certainly enjoyable. Don’t **gonzomax** & **Starving Artist** belong in that neighborhood somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/92 "2010-08-12T02:46:51Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > [@Guinastasia](#): > > > > I’m asking this seriously – why do you post here, **Rand Rover**. You’ve made it quite clear that we’re nothing but “liberal douches”, so why bother? This is not meant to be offensive, or snarky. I’m genuinely curious. > > I like fighting ignorance. And I like laughing at stupid people. I’ve hit the motherlode on both counts here. Yes, well, **Diogenes,** whatever else one might say of him, and even if every criticism directed at him in this thread is true, is at any rate much smarter than you. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/93 "2010-08-12T02:47:43Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > It doesn’t matter what our own experiences are, or what other sources say – if **Dio** didn’t see it, or **Dio** disagrees, we are wrong. Period. The Almighty **Dio** has declared it, thus it is correct. > > (I suggest he change his name to **Diogenes the Never Wrong** ) :rolleyes: > > His latest spew: if you agree with U.S. involvement in WWII, [you support burning toddlers alive](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=573999). > > But of course, let’s not forget that: > > [There’s absolutely no harm in driving while stoned](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=571382) > > [If a guy says his libido is low due to stress, he’s lying – he’s either gay or cheating on you.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=561509) > > [Changing a dirty diaper on a food prep surface isn’t a health code violation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=564223) Seriously, you’ve been on here for ten years. Would it kill you to link to the _specific posts_? ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/94 "2010-08-12T02:52:04Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > > [@Autolycus](#): > > > > In my mind, the Dio Zone, the Der Trihs Holodeck, and the Rand Rover Rumpus Room are all adjacent to each other in a lower circle of the UnderDope. Although, it must be said that brief visits are certainly enjoyable. > > Don’t **gonzomax** & **Starving Artist** belong in that neighborhood somewhere? Everyone’s perception of the UnderDope is different. @Rand Rover: Accepted graciously. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/95 "2010-08-12T02:52:23Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > > [@Guinastasia](#): > > > > It doesn’t matter what our own experiences are, or what other sources say – if **Dio** didn’t see it, or **Dio** disagrees, we are wrong. Period. The Almighty **Dio** has declared it, thus it is correct. > > > > (I suggest he change his name to **Diogenes the Never Wrong** ) :rolleyes: > > > > His latest spew: if you agree with U.S. involvement in WWII, [you support burning toddlers alive](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=573999). > > > > But of course, let’s not forget that: > > > > [There’s absolutely no harm in driving while stoned](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=571382) > > > > [If a guy says his libido is low due to stress, he’s lying – he’s either gay or cheating on you.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=561509) > > > > [Changing a dirty diaper on a food prep surface isn’t a health code violation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=564223) > > Seriously, you’ve been on here for ten years. Would it kill you to link to the _specific posts_? Did you read my comment above where I said was no one single comment to link TO? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/96 "2010-08-12T02:54:23Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Sad that no one apparently gives a shit what you post, are we? Well, no, but thanks for your concern. And people say you have no heart. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/97 "2010-08-12T02:57:13Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > > > Nobody likes you. Go away and die as soon as possible. > > Please don’t wish death on other posters. > > [/Moderating] Can we wish it and just keep it to ourselves (e.g., not post about it), or are you finally doing away with all pretense, and attempting to moderate our _actual thoughts_? ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/98 "2010-08-12T02:58:21Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > > [@MTCicero](#): > > > > Seriously, you’ve been on here for ten years. Would it kill you to link to the _specific posts_? > > Did you read my comment above where I said was no one single comment to link TO? Yes, I did. After I read (and responded to) your first post. I do tend to read the posts in order. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/99 "2010-08-12T03:13:09Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > > [@Guinastasia](#): > > > > Did you read my comment above where I said was no one single comment to link TO? > > Yes, I did. After I read (and responded to) your first post. > > I do tend to read the posts in order. Excuse me for not wanting to post about 20 links, rather than 5. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972/100 "2010-08-12T03:21:04Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > To those new to the board, I have one thing to say. > > You’re about to meet an opionated man: **Diogenes the Cynic** , who knows what he knows and knows it well. This is an intelligent man, a stubborn man, who’s tired of cutting people slack for their obvious stupidity. **Diogenes** , whose own blind ignorance is about to catapult him into the darkest corner of… the _Dio Zone_ Yup. For myself, Dio is two different posters - one of the most frustrating and blindingly maddening posters in SDMB’s history who absolutely will.not.budge off of completely (and obvious) wrong assertion; and one of the most compellingly correct and persuasive posters that it’s hard to understand when people argue against him when he’s clearly right. The problem these days is that when he’s wrong, he’s amazingly wrong. And when he’s right, only the obtuse are ranting against him. And he has zero concept of when that is. The other problem is that I have to add a third category: Mad White Internet Rapper. (Dude, that was friggin’ awesome.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diogenes-would-you-kindly-just-shut-the-fuck-up-already/549972.md?page=6)